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Poll: Ryzen 7950X3D, 7900X3D, 7800X3D

Will you be purchasing the 7800X3D on the 6th?


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Need better thermal compound.
Currently using MX-4 but also have some old CoolLaboratory Liquid Metal Pro laying around.
Worth a try apart from staining the cpu lol.?
Yes I use it all the time on everything. Just be prepared for people to use a stain as a reason to low ball you or return an item so make sure you mention it’s stained prior to selling. :cry:
 
@LtMatt here are my timings (XMP profile).
This is my ram: https://www.overclockers.co.uk/team...kit-black-ff3d532g6000hc30dc01-my-0b8-tg.html

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Thanks. :)
New learnings, so slightly different timings than I've previously suggested.

This is based on running 6000C28Mhz.
  1. Dram VDD 1.45v (you might be able to lower this if the below is stable)
  2. DRAM VDDQ 1.35v (always keep 100mv lower than VDD)
  3. SOC is fine, but can try to lower to 1.25v-1.3v later
  4. VDDP is fine, but can try to lower to 1.100v-1.125v later
  5. Memory Context Restore and Power Down Mode Disabled - tolerate a ten second longer post time ;)
  6. If you won't disable Memory Context Restore, you need to leave power down mode enabled (these two features are mutually exclusive atm) and put up with the little latency penalty for doing so
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Possible further improvements would be as follows:
  • RDDL 12
  • WTRL 24
  • RDRDSCL 5
  • TWRWRSCL 17
If that's okay, further improvements could be:

RDC 34 (not sure if this would be stable would need testing depends on DIMM quality)
TRP 34 (not sure if this would be stable would need testing depends on DIMM quality)
RAS 46
RC 80
RFC 472
RFC2 256
 
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@LtMatt

Do you happen to know the safe temp for Hynix M Die? I’ve looked around and can only see ‘they don’t mind heat’.

Also 1.45v safe long term? The spec sheet says up to 1.5v but with a warning that running close to max will degrade the ICs.

Thanks for your input.
 
New learnings, so slightly different timings than I've previously suggested.

This is based on running 6000C28Mhz.
  1. Dram VDD 1.45v (you might be able to lower this if the below is stable)
  2. DRAM VDDQ 1.35v (always keep 100mv lower than VDD)
  3. SOC is fine, but can try to lower to 1.25v-1.3v later
  4. VDDP is fine, but can try to lower to 1.100v-1.125v later
  5. Memory Context Restore and Power Down Mode Disabled - tolerate a ten second longer post time ;)
  6. If you won't disable Memory Context Restore, you need to leave power down mode enabled (these two features are mutually exclusive atm) and put up with the little latency penalty for doing so
i0DzAVt.png


Possible further improvements would be as follows:
  • RDDL 12
  • WTRL 24
  • RDRDSCL 5
  • TWRWRSCL 17
If that's okay, further improvements could be:

RDC 34 (not sure if this would be stable would need testing depends on DIMM quality)
TRP 34 (not sure if this would be stable would need testing depends on DIMM quality)
RAS 46
RC 80
RFC 472
RFC2 256
Just out of interest, can these settings be used with any DDR5 6000 CL30? I've got the Corsair Dom Plat 2 x 16gb.
 
Just out of interest, can these settings be used with any DDR5 6000 CL30? I've got the Corsair Dom Plat 2 x 16gb.
Should work fine, you can use lower voltage though.
@LtMatt

Do you happen to know the safe temp for Hynix M Die? I’ve looked around and can only see ‘they don’t mind heat’.

Also 1.45v safe long term? The spec sheet says up to 1.5v but with a warning that running close to max will degrade the ICs.

Thanks for your input.
I don't have a specific number, but 1.45v or less should be fine. For higher voltage values you might want a fan pointed at the DIMMs as part a certain point they become unstable when overclocked and overvolted.
 
@LtMatt any idea what to set CPU VDDIO / MC Voltage to.?
Leaving it on auto raised it from 1.356v to 1.456v after applying first part of your suggested settings.
Not sure what safe voltage for that is.
The good news is that it booted fine so far. :)

Edit: Just read that people run it at 1.5-1.6v for daily use and up to 2v even so I guess 1.46v is fine. :)

Edit2: After only doing the first part memory latency dropped by 10ns..!
 
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@LtMatt any idea what to set CPU VDDIO / MC Voltage to.?
Leaving it on auto raised it from 1.356v to 1.456v after applying first part of your suggested settings.
Not sure what safe voltage for that is.
The good news is that it booted fine so far. :)

Edit: Just read that people run it at 1.5-1.6v for daily use and up to 2v even so I guess 1.46v is fine. :)

Edit2: After only doing the first part memory latency dropped by 10ns..!
VDDIO can be set to 1.25v. Set iGPU to disabled in bios and disable thunderbolt too.
 
VDDIO can be set to 1.25v. Set iGPU to disabled in bios and disable thunderbolt too.
Applied all of your suggested timings and the system booted up without any issues.
Reduced memory latency from 78.1ns with XMP profile down to 67ns and also increased memory bandwidth.
I don’t usually run memtest and instead use my system as usual since I don’t do any critical work on it.
If it crashes or programs/games start to crash then I will go back to bios and ease up timings one by one.
Even with 1.45v I’ve not seen temperatures of either DIMM go over 40C so far and that’s after hours of gaming.
Can you suggest any gaming benchmarks that can show improved memory timings.?
Thanks a lot for all your help that was the easiest memory tuning I’ve done so far as had 0 lockups and 0 boot failures.
I’m actually quite impressed considering it is the cheapest 6000mhz ram available on OCuk.
:)
 
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Applied all of your suggested timings and the system booted up without any issues.
Reduced memory latency from 78.1ns with XMP profile down to 67ns and also increased memory bandwidth.
I don’t usually run memtest and instead use my system as usual since I don’t do any critical work on it.
If it crashes or programs/games start to crash then I will go back to bios and ease up timings one by one.
Even with 1.45v I’ve not seen temperatures of either DIMM go over 40C so far and that’s after hours of gaming.
Can you suggest any gaming benchmarks that can show improved memory timings.?
Thanks a lot for all your help that was the easiest memory tuning I’ve done so far as had 0 lockups and 0 boot failures.
I’m actually quite impressed considering it is the cheapest 6000mhz ram available on OCuk.
:)
Just because it boots up and you can't see anything wrong with it doesn't mean it's stable it could be corrupting stuff/windows in the background.

If I was you I'd run TM5 usmusV3 for 50 cycles as a starter then run OCCT Large Extreme for 2 hours Y-cruncher VST 2 hours and the mixed version for another 2 hours. Then I'd run Anta7777Extreme, usmusV3, Krahu all for a overnight each to make sure your rock solid.

But if you just want to take the easy route out and not care that some games can crash at times then just run OCCT Large Extreme 1 hour, TM5 usmusV3 25 cycles, Y-cruncher all mixed 1 hour and Krahu 2 hours with cache enabled
 
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Just because it boots up and you can't see anything wrong with it doesn't mean it's stable it could be corrupting stuff/windows in the background.

If I was you I'd run TM5 usmusV3 for 50 cycles as a starter then run OCCT Large Extreme for 2 hours Y-cruncher VST 2 hours and the mixed version for another 2 hours. Then I'd run Anta7777Extreme, usmusV3, Krahu all for a overnight each to make sure your rock solid.

But if you just want to take the easy route out and not care that some games can crash at times then just run OCCT Large Extreme 1 hour, TM5 usmusV3 25 cycles, Y-cruncher all mixed 1 hour and Krahu 2 hours with cache enabled
Nah if it corrupts windows then I will reinstall it which I should do anyway.
Got nothing to lose.
 
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Managed to get this...


BnS15MZ
Got VDD at 1.45 and VDDQ at 1.35, reckon i can lower the voltages a bit? Also using Corsair Dom plat.
 
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From what I gather that's just PBO presets which I believe appear on most boards - I enabled PBO last night on my ASUS TUF X670E-PLUS WIFI, but haven't played around with the profiles yet, there are a few different profiles provided with this motherboard also (from what I remember it's pretty common so I'd be surprised to find a board without it but you never know).

Speaking of, I was a bit nervous of having RAM issues given it's not on the QVL list, but G.Skill Trident 6000Mhz CL30 runs fine without issues on EXPO1!
My Corsair RAM is also not on QVL but runs on EXPO 2. Have you tried EXPO 2? It will change more of the timings.
 
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Hi everyone - does anyone have any advice for basic bios (Asus strip gaming 670e- F) changes to get the best out of a 7950x3d? I setup my memory to expo 1, which is now operating as it should.. but are there any other changes I should make (and some explanation of what they are please). Cheers!
 
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Try disabling Ethernet power saving in your bios - it's related to the issue, the issue is that the Ethernet port is going to sleep when it shouldn't be and then sometimes also not waking up. It's a hardware flaw so Intel can't easily fix it, the hardware flaw makes the Ethernet port incompatible with the standardised Ethernet power saving standards

You could also switch to wifi or buy an PCIE Ethernet network card. Either will fix the issue as well

instead of buying a whole pcie ethernet network card to fix this problem would one of those little plugin usb ethernet adapters also work?
 
Ok. Very frustrated that my order on the 11th renders me a May delivery. I have everything waiting. The 7800x3d is in stock virtually everywhere in Europe including the sister company of OC.

I bought the team group white kits with CAS 30. Does anyone know if that kit is expo or not?
 
Ok. Very frustrated that my order on the 11th renders me a May delivery. I have everything waiting. The 7800x3d is in stock virtually everywhere in Europe including the sister company of OC.

I bought the team group white kits with CAS 30. Does anyone know if that kit is expo or not?

Not where I live!

My order has been push back to some point in May and none of the neighbouring have stock.
 
Not where I live!

My order has been push back to some point in May and none of the neighbouring have stock.

What country do you live in? I’d have ordered another cpu (I have 2 on back order. One from here and another from a different uk retailer) from them if I could but they don’t shop to the uk (brexit etc)
 
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