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Poll: Ryzen 7950X3D, 7900X3D, 7800X3D

Will you be purchasing the 7800X3D on the 6th?


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If you are using BIOS defaults like i suggested then curve optimiser should not even be a consideration.

https://imgur.com/a/BQ1ATAh
I load my settings after I clear cmos etc. I don’t leave bios at default because I save my fan profile etc and load this. I try again without curve optimiser and files corrupt. This must be faulty because it should work.

https://imgur.com/a/BQ1ATAh
 
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I load my settings after I clear cmos etc. I don’t leave bios at default because I save my fan profile etc and load this. I try again without curve optimiser and files corrupt. This must be faulty because it should work.

https://imgur.com/a/BQ1ATAh
Your old settings may no longer be stable with this kit, I don't know. Just rule that out completely and run stock and just worry about memory frequency, timings and voltage. Don't load your previous settings that were stable on a different kit.

Try these timings.
vd9pCcS.png


DRAM VDD 1.45v
DRAM VDDQ 1.35v
 
Your old settings may no longer be stable with this kit, I don't know. Just rule that out completely and run stock and just worry about memory frequency, timings and voltage. Don't load your previous settings that were stable on a different kit.

Try these timings.
vd9pCcS.png


DRAM VDD 1.45v
DRAM VDDQ 1.35v
Thank you for these.

I save all settings I learned from you which is why I worry if I can’t use these I will not remember everything. I will do as you suggest and try everything at standard settings. After another windows install I’m afraid.
 
@LtMatt I seem to be getting somewhere now. Is it ok to set cpu boost clock override to +200? Someone say this might be an issue because AMD remove?

I appreciate this help.
Yes, it can add some frequency to the second CCD, it does nothing for the first CCD. 64GB dual rank puts more strain on the CPU, so your previous curve optimiser settings may not longer be stable.

The above timings may well be stable at 6200Mhz too, but you'd have to test it.
 
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Yes, it can add some frequency to the second CCD, it does nothing for the first CCD. 64GB dual rank puts more strain on the CPU, so your previous curve optimiser settings may not longer be stable.

The above timings may well be stable at 6200Mhz too, but you'd have to test it.
Ahh ok I understand. It must have been another bios setting because when I load the same curve optimiser settings it’s is working now. When I load my previous saved settings it doesn’t work.

I notice the newest YCruncher is a little bit hotter than the previous one also.

I will give this a go next. Thank you again.
 
Your old settings may no longer be stable with this kit, I don't know. Just rule that out completely and run stock and just worry about memory frequency, timings and voltage. Don't load your previous settings that were stable on a different kit.

Try these timings.
vd9pCcS.png


DRAM VDD 1.45v
DRAM VDDQ 1.35v
Is this something new with the VDD and VDDQ being set different in this way. I have never see this before. I don’t doubt, just curious.
 
Is this something new with the VDD and VDDQ being set different in this way. I have never see this before. I don’t doubt, just curious.
You can set it anywhere up to 0.200v lower and it can help reduce temperatures and power drawn via the lower VDDQ. I'm running mine at 0.150mv lower than VDD.

Just need to verify it's stable, but all should be able to do 0.100v lower.
 
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You can set it anywhere up to 0.200v lower and it can help reduce temperatures and power drawn via the lower VDDQ. I'm running mine at 0.150mv lower than VDD.

Just need to verify it's stable, but all should be able to do 0.100v lower.
Ah ok. This is good to know. I am fully stable after long testing with Karhu and Y cruncher with 1Usmus. I am very happy with this memory. Hopefully I can tighten even more. I hope to reach 6200
With same timings then try tighten. Then I will hopefully be able to reduce SOC VDD VDDQ etc even lower and after all this my Fclk. This is showing great results so far abs is scaling very well.
 
I notice my cpu (Tctl/T die) temps in HWINFO64 have been reaching 85c in gaming. I tried some benchmarks and notice the temps are also higher than usual.

Anyone have anything similar?
 
Has anyone got a video I can use to tweak settings like ram and curve optimizer for the 7950x3d please? At the moment I'm using all core curve optimizer sign negative with the magnitude 25 on all cores and my ram set to 6400 on auto expo settings and only other setting is the cppc dynamic preffered cores set to auto does this sound ok? Sorry I'm new to this and it's all confusing
 
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wow on second thoughts think i might not bother for 1-2 % gains

 
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wow on second thoughts think i might not bother for 1-2 % gains

Peformance wise alone it's not huge, no, the performance is gained from other factors changing. It gains the biggest benefit from temperature/power drops. Which can in turn benefit performance if it pushes your CPU into a lower temp bracket that can allow it to boost higher. For example if your CPU is running at the max temp of 89C on heavy work loads, using a negative CO can reduce that and give more headroom to boost. If you've already got a really good cooler/case where the CPU isn't getting to those temps then you might not see as big of a gain.

At a guess I'd imagine your current negative CO is probably not stable under all workloads. All core CO kind of works for single CCD CPU's, but when you've got two CCDs which aren't even symmetrical like in the 7950x3D it doesn't really work as well. In my experience, and from what I've seen of a lot of other reports. The CCD with the cache on allows for a much bigger negative CO than the frequency CCD does. Of course if you mostly use it for games you might not notice instability on the frequency CCD as it's just not used as much by design.
I notice my cpu (Tctl/T die) temps in HWINFO64 have been reaching 85c in gaming. I tried some benchmarks and notice the temps are also higher than usual.

Anyone have anything similar?

What CPU? I can't say I've noticed any difference in temps on my 7950X3D.
 
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Has anyone got a video I can use to tweak settings like ram and curve optimizer for the 7950x3d please? At the moment I'm using all core curve optimizer sign negative with the magnitude 25 on all cores and my ram set to 6400 on auto expo settings and only other setting is the cppc dynamic preffered cores set to auto does this sound ok? Sorry I'm new to this and it's all confusing
6400 ram speed might be a little abitious tbh ( unless its with really loose timings ) - Have you tested that for stability ?

Just because it boots to Windows with EXPO doesn't mean its stable.
 
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