Check out some core count reviews regarding are X many cores enough for gaming. The answer is yes they are at the moment. Games are still lagging behind the core counts stakes. If they were able to parallel process well you'd should be seeing intel with their core counts hammering the AMD lower core count chips and you aren't at least not in gaming. Fewer faster cores are better than more slower cores. There might be the odd fringe case game but generally rule of thumb stands as it always has.
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Poll: Ryzen 7950X3D, 7900X3D, 7800X3D
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Sorry, yes I have seen these videos etc. just interested in how these chips fared when 6 wasn't enough. I have a 5900x at the moment and no way I will drop to 8 so just intrigued really in it's performance. Cyberpunk I know hogs 8 and it won't be long until more are better. I mean 6 is still considered fine but it's not the ultimate gaming choice.
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I'm struggling with temps on the 7800xd and not sure why. It's not dangerously hot but seeing it in the 70s when using a h100iV2 and I think should be better than that. Re-arranged cooler etc and re-applied TIM etc. Which helped a bit but it's still on the hotter side.
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I can’t get the one I’ve built much past 60c in OCCT with a peerless assassin even in this weather. My 7700x gets to 95c no problem. I’m wondering what’s going on with both of them
I have no idea what is going on but I've noticed that - some people on very similar setups barely get over 60C, even mid to upper 50s, with the 7800X3D playing certain games whereas someone else playing the same game will see low 70s and it seems "normal". No idea why.
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With all the news about the problems intel is having and this really hot weather, I’m beginning to worry about my 14900k. The temps when gaming are hitting 90 degrees with my Corsair h150i elite 360mm cooler. My room is incredibly hot though.
Am I crazy to think about selling it and going for a 7800x3d and b650e motherboard with ram to match.
Will I see any improvements? I solely use my pc for gaming.
Thanks
Am I crazy to think about selling it and going for a 7800x3d and b650e motherboard with ram to match.
Will I see any improvements? I solely use my pc for gaming.
Thanks
Soldato
With all the news about the problems intel is having and this really hot weather, I’m beginning to worry about my 14900k. The temps when gaming are hitting 90 degrees with my Corsair h150i elite 360mm cooler. My room is incredibly hot though.
Am I crazy to think about selling it and going for a 7800x3d and b650e motherboard with ram to match.
Will I see any improvements? I solely use my pc for gaming.
Thanks
With all the news about the problems intel is having and this really hot weather, I’m beginning to worry about my 14900k. The temps when gaming are hitting 90 degrees with my Corsair h150i elite 360mm cooler. My room is incredibly hot though.
Am I crazy to think about selling it and going for a 7800x3d and b650e motherboard with ram to match.
Will I see any improvements? I solely use my pc for gaming.
Thanks
At higher resolution and settings i.e. 4K with ultra settings you'll rarely see much in it between the 2 CPUs - the 7800X3D will show some minor improvements on average but single digit percentages. Unless you are doing like 1080p 360Hz e-sport kind of stuff where the 7800X3D will show its legs. If you are purely gaming it isn't a crazy idea but keep in mind it is a big step down if you do anything non-gaming.
Hard to say if you'll notice any difference in terms of room temperature - the whole system power consumption for both is still fairly high so you are only putting about the same extra heat into the room as an old incandescent lightbulb - which might make a difference in a small room but otherwise is probably imperceptible. You've still got the 4090 there chomping down power. (EDIT: If running the 14900K with higher/unlimited power limits the power use/heat output will be a bit more extreme - can be another 100+ watt on top of what I'm saying for an extra 1-2% performance in games :s).
I'd say the concerns about the problems with the 13th and 14th gen would be more pertinent in a decision to change if only for peace of mind.
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You'll see performance losses if you have anything else going on in the background besides games.With all the news about the problems intel is having and this really hot weather, I’m beginning to worry about my 14900k. The temps when gaming are hitting 90 degrees with my Corsair h150i elite 360mm cooler. My room is incredibly hot though.
Am I crazy to think about selling it and going for a 7800x3d and b650e motherboard with ram to match.
Will I see any improvements? I solely use my pc for gaming.
Thanks
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Thanks for the reply’s everyone. All I have in the background is discord, hwinfo, and my headphone software so hopefully nothing crazy. I’m close to pulling the trigger on the upgrade but also considering waiting for the 9800x3d. I’m just battling with the voices instead my head telling me which way to go 
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Well I did the switch. I now have a 7800x3d in a MSI x670e gaming plus WiFi with 32gb 6000 c30 ram. Windows is freshly installed and all drivers are installed and up to date.
Is there anything else I should do?
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Is there anything else I should do?
Thanks
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Have you set EXPO and PBO (with negative 20 or 30 offset) in the BIOS?Well I did the switch. I now have a 7800x3d in a MSI x670e gaming plus WiFi with 32gb 6000 c30 ram. Windows is freshly installed and all drivers are installed and up to date.
Is there anything else I should do?
Thanks
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I turned expo on but i did change PBO from auto to disabled. I noticed hwmonitor showing some of my cores hitting 5.8ghz and I thought wow maybe this is trying to overclock too hard so I disabled it. I’m not into overlocking and just looking for perfect stability.
I keep reading that people suggest a -20 or 30 offset but is PBO really essential? Having it disabled I’m still getting great performance and my temps are great.
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I keep reading that people suggest a -20 or 30 offset but is PBO really essential? Having it disabled I’m still getting great performance and my temps are great.
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I turned expo on but i did change PBO from auto to disabled. I noticed hwmonitor showing some of my cores hitting 5.8ghz and I thought wow maybe this is trying to overclock too hard so I disabled it. I’m not into overlocking and just looking for perfect stability.
I keep reading that people suggest a -20 or 30 offset but is PBO really essential? Having it disabled I’m still getting great performance and my temps are great.
Thanks
You don't really need to use offset on voltage for -20 etc, the CPU runs cool anyway ,now if you had 7700x I would recommend using offset voltage of -20 etc, also for better stability I disabled fast bootup on my Asus motherboard in BIOS (under Boot section), you should have that on your MSI board as well.
One thing I did change Auto to manual for setting thermal CPU limit in BIOS , mine is set to 83c,the 7800X3D has 89c safe limit. Btw I use EXPO 1 in BIOS.
Also average gaming temps for me are 65c with air cooler, that shows the CPU one of the coolest in the range. Starfield around 70c without offset voltage well within safe limit.
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Andy
just set up a 5900x for my son, when testing it was in high 70's, most of the time, sometimes mid 80's with this heat
ran pbo with curve (ran test per core. 2+ hours) now the cpu after a few tests 70c max saw it, makes a difference if want to spend time on it.
just set up a 5900x for my son, when testing it was in high 70's, most of the time, sometimes mid 80's with this heat
ran pbo with curve (ran test per core. 2+ hours) now the cpu after a few tests 70c max saw it, makes a difference if want to spend time on it.
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I guess it’s worth trying to see what happens then . My boot time is quite slow compared to my i7 system and I’ve read about memory context restore bur I’ve kept that off too for more stability. I’ll make sure fast boot is off too thanks for the tip.
I absolutely love the 7800x3d though. The other night I was playing Pubg and some of my cores hit 100 degrees. My fans were running fast on the aio and case too and it still didn’t do much to help. I was running the bios on performance settings too so as stock as possible.
The 7800x3d runs so much cooler and is just as fast/faster in games. I wish I made the switch earlier
. My boot time is quite slow compared to my i7 system and I’ve read about memory context restore bur I’ve kept that off too for more stability. I’ll make sure fast boot is off too thanks for the tip. I absolutely love the 7800x3d though. The other night I was playing Pubg and some of my cores hit 100 degrees. My fans were running fast on the aio and case too and it still didn’t do much to help. I was running the bios on performance settings too so as stock as possible.
The 7800x3d runs so much cooler and is just as fast/faster in games. I wish I made the switch earlier
Have you got the igpu disabled?Thanks for the reply’s everyone. All I have in the background is discord, hwinfo, and my headphone software so hopefully nothing crazy. I’m close to pulling the trigger on the upgrade but also considering waiting for the 9800x3d. I’m just battling with the voices instead my head telling me which way to go
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I think I do have the right settings for it to be disabled, but by having it disabled am I making much difference? Part of me thinks it’s handy to have incase my 4090 died or something
