Soldato
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X3D is an easy choice over the vanilla because at best you stand to gain and the couple of scenarios where there is slight regression, they‘re minor compared to the gains across the board.
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Poll: Ryzen 7950X3D, 7900X3D, 7800X3D
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Soldato
Plus the larger 3D cache it is paired with for the 7950X3D.
Have you actually tried using a 7600 or 7600X with a 4090 in modern games? I have, here's Cyberpunk 2077 on my 7600 and 4090:
6 cores are not enough for smooth gameplay in modern games with a good GPU, that's at 4K.
I am abit lost.
What would be the point of waiting for the 7950X3D instead getting the normal 7950X? Which is now cheaper and has an slighty higher base clock over the 7950X3D.
Would it make THAT much of a difference in gaming with the 3D cache and what about in non gaming everyday use?
Im thinking of maybe upgrading in a few months but I currently have an 5950x with an 7900xtx.
What would be the point of waiting for the 7950X3D instead getting the normal 7950X? Which is now cheaper and has an slighty higher base clock over the 7950X3D.
Would it make THAT much of a difference in gaming with the 3D cache and what about in non gaming everyday use?
Im thinking of maybe upgrading in a few months but I currently have an 5950x with an 7900xtx.
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Would be a better cpu for gaming and have a longer shelf life before the next upgrade. We don’t much information but would be best to wait for reviews before making a choice.
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Depends on the game, part of the problem we see with benchmark reviews is they focus on a subset of games used across their historical review line up where as what would be really useful imho is a selection of CPU bound games.
Typically these are sims like MSFS, DCS World, X4 Foundations.
If you don't play cpu bound games then frankly you're burning money on some of this tech imho, you're better off using it on a faster GPU.
most are going by what improvements the 5800x3d had over the 5000 series line up in gaming
Soldato
The 3D cache gives the CPU direct access to a 2TB/s cache (at least on the 5800X3D, I wonder if the new one is faster). This is 15x faster than 8400 DDR5 in dual channel.
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If people believe Moore’s Law Is Dead then you are looking at 30% improvement over Intel in gaming.
I can’t watch YouTube anymore. There are actually people believing this.
I can’t watch YouTube anymore. There are actually people believing this.
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My CPU's L3 gets 1427.7GB/s read and 1105GB/s write in AIDA64, RAM (5600) get 73599MB/s read. Think latency is more important as the data all comes from RAM anyway. The L3 helps mask some of the latency so the CPU can keep working while data is streaming into L3->L2->L1. This works well for tightly packed sequential data but badly for random IO. Games optimise data for things like AVX/AVX2 which needs tightly packed sequential data to work well so they give the best-case results for extra L3. Software that uses lots of random IO will show the worst-case results.
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Do you have any other examples of that or are you just trying to define 1 outlier game with a possible optimization issue as "modern games"?Have you actually tried using a 7600 or 7600X with a 4090 in modern games? I have, here's Cyberpunk 2077 on my 7600 and 4090:
6 cores are not enough for smooth gameplay in modern games with a good GPU, that's at 4K.
30% if this was actually true then AMD would have touted this at CES to drive up interest.
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I suppose this is a good way for such YouTubers to get views.
Caporegime
30%, i very much doubt it......
Soldato
They mentioned 24% over the 13900K. Not sure where the 30% would be unless it’s something that has been highly optimised for the 3D cache I guess.
Caporegime
Is that "Up to" because that's very different from average.
The average for 7800X3D vs 7700X will probably be like the 5800X3D vs 5800X. How the 7900X3D and 7950X3D do will be determined by how well the OS deals with the unbalanced CCX's. AMD needs to get MS to get this right or it will be a dumpster fire.
that was only on Horizon zero dawn not in general will be interesting over bigger number of games I feel its slightly gonna be faster and lows will also be interesting to look at
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Soldato
The guy has always been an AMD shill and he comes across as quite irritating sometimes. It will be some performance uplift in some games, hit & miss in other words, just like 5800x3D surely?