Poll: Ryzen 7950X3D, 7900X3D, 7800X3D

[Wolverine2349]

and pay loads more?

Well yeah unfortunately. AMD is taking advantage of the fact some may only want 8 core 3D vcache Zen 4 as they do not do much productivity and almost 0 games have any benefit from more than 8 cores nor will much if any anytime soon, but delaying its release for 2 months. They are hoping to get impatient buyers to pay the premium who cannot bear to wait for April. Though odd that AMD 3.5 years ago held off on flagship 3950X till November 2019 while releasing the lower core count Zen 2 in July 2019 They have you by the balls and are not your friend. No company is. They are greedy and care nothing but the bottom end dollar.

And both Intel and AMD behave this way and its quite a surprise given how the competition is so strong between the 2 as they both have their pros and cons. I would think both would be a little more friendly given how they both are pushing each other and also given that AMD's P cores are a little weaker in IPC and much more in latency than Intel P cores though AMD has more than 8 strong cores for those that want them but AMD going to be AMD and Intel going to be Intel.

 

[henry hoov3r]

Ryzen 2600 wiping floor with a 12400 Intel. Ouch, not helping our resident anti AMD posters.

That 5800x3d is a big jump over the 13900k in MW2 quite surprised by that.

 

[jigger]

Well yeah unfortunately. AMD is taking advantage of the fact some may only want 8 core 3D vcache Zen 4 as they do not do much productivity and almost 0 games have any benefit from more than 8 cores nor will much if any anytime soon, but delaying its release for 2 months. They are hoping to get impatient buyers to pay the premium. They have you by the balls and are not your friend. No company is. They are greedy and care nothing but the bottom end dollar.

And both Intel and AMD behave this way and its quite a surprise given how the competition is so strong between the 2 as they both have their pros and cons. I would think both would be a little more friendly given how they both are pushing each other and also given that AMD's P cores are a little weaker in IPC and much more in latency than Intel P cores though AMD has more than 8 strong cores for those that want them but AMD going to be AMD and Intel going to be Intel.

AMD is just launching the high end part first to show case it’s hard work. The other chips will come after.

 

[LtMatt]

Some impressive numbers in the Toms 3D review blimey! https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/amd-ryzen-9-7950x3d-cpu-review/6

Spoiler

 

[MartinPrince]

...Only take a few months to pay for itself vs a 13900K/KS with electricity prices at current values!

Using the figures you used here, If you could somehow game for 24 hours a day and using the current price cap electricity cost figures it would take you 3.14 years for you to make the cost back of the CPU. Or if you gamed for a more realistic 6 hours a day it would take you 12.7 years for the difference to pay for the CPU!

Do you ever think before writing such nonsense? I hope you enjoy your new CPU, it looks very decent but you might want to lay off the self-delusion pills!

 

[jigger]

That 5800x3d is a big jump over the 13900k in MW2 quite surprised by that.

Yeah, something odd going on, but isn’t that always the case with new hardware waiting for middleware updates.

 

[Bencher]

Using the figures you used here, If you could somehow game for 24 hours a day and using the current price cap electricity cost figures it would take you 3.14 years for you to make the cost back of the CPU. Or if you gamed for a more realistic 6 hours a day it would take you 12.7 years for the difference to pay for the CPU!

Do you ever think before writing such nonsense? I hope you enjoy your new CPU, it's looks very decent but you might want to lay off the self-delusion pills!

Τhats playing at 1080p with a 4090. Higher resolution means lower fps and lower cpu power consumption as well. You need more than a decade to cover the cost of the power draw with normal 4 hours gaming per day.

 

[Richdog]

Me too. I might still be tempted but I think I’ll upgrade later in the cycle.

I will skip Zen4, it's an incremental performance upgrade over Zen3. Zen5 or Zen6 will I am sure be significant leaps ahead and by then DDR5 and AM5 motherboards will be more widely available.

 

[delta0]

Well the 7950X3D can be made into a 7800X3D easily. Just disable the non 3D cache CCD in BIOS and viola yo have a 7800X3D already.

And drop the clock to 5GHz

 

[Vigorito]

The performance difference between a 5800X3D and 7950X3D is massive.

How well Nvidia drivers and game leverage the extra performance is the question. That side, if I paid the insane asking price for a RTX 4090 I’d want every last drop of performance I could muster from it.

massive in what? price? sure

 

[jigger]

massive in what? price? sure

In performance. The price is really good for the hardware on offer. It’s somewhat of a bargain CPU for around £700

 

[TrixP10]

Using the figures you used here, If you could somehow game for 24 hours a day and using the current price cap electricity cost figures it would take you 3.14 years for you to make the cost back of the CPU. Or if you gamed for a more realistic 6 hours a day it would take you 12.7 years for the difference to pay for the CPU!

Do you ever think before writing such nonsense? I hope you enjoy your new CPU, it's looks very decent but you might want to lay off the self-delusion pills!

I agree with Dave. The advance of this efficiency is stunning. Especially given recent global events. To equate those figures in any other way is ridiculous.

 

[uscool]

Well the 7950X3D can be made into a 7800X3D easily. Just disable the non 3D cache CCD in BIOS and viola yo have a 7800X3D already.

Or you can wait 8 weeks and save few hundred £££

 

[LtMatt]

No two ways about it, it uses less power than the 5800X3D and has double the CPU cores. That is impressive, aside from the fact it is the fastest gaming CPU overall and it doesn't require the fastest DDR5 memory to get top tier performance.

 

[Hotwired]

And drop the clock to 5GHz

The speed you see in the specs is the chiplet without cache. If you disable that you drop down to the lower speed chiplet with cache which essentially makes it a 7800X3D.

 

[Cyber-Mav]

The 7950X3D has wiped the floor with the 13900, just as the 7950 did before it. The floor is now sterile.

iv just watched the gamers nexus video on it and from those charts the 13900 was topping the 7950x3d often. so not sure where your coming from?

 

[jigger]

I agree with Dave. The advance of this efficiency is stunning. Especially given recent global events. To equate those figures in any other way is ridiculous.

I also agree with Dave on this, however he is not factoring that with an Intel CPU you can also save a fortune on your heating bill and with a highend Nvidia card your PC can replace your boiler.

 

[Deleted member 258511]

In performance. The price is really good for the hardware on offer. It’s somewhat of a bargain CPU for around £700

Sounds like you’ll be buying one then?

 

[Bencher]

I also agree with Dave on this, however he is not factoring that with an Intel CPU you can also save a fortune on your heating bill and with a highend Nvidia card your PC can replace your boiler.

I hope you realiez nvidia cards are more efficient than amd's. .Oh nevermind, you are one of those people that facts are secondary, ignore me

 

[TrixP10]

I also agree with Dave on this, however he is not factoring that with an Intel CPU you can also save a fortune on your heating bill and with a highend Nvidia card your PC can replace your boiler.

and all huddle together in the backroom gaming den. Nice