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Poll: Ryzen 7950X3D, 7900X3D, 7800X3D

Will you be purchasing the 7800X3D on the 6th?

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  • Poll closed .
harderthanfire said:
I'm not sure the 7800X3D is going to be that similar in perf to the 7950X3D it has 700mhz less boost and that's a 12% freq loss. That has to have an impact on overall performance. No doubt it'll be good value for money though but for the top perf 7950X3D looks to be where it is at.
I'm liking the look of the 50-75W less power used than the 7950X and some people seeing 20C lower temps also.
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7800X3D only has 8 cores, so anyone running AAA games with a few background apps open will see performance benefit from a 12 or 16 core model. These reviews are 100% clean systems, nothing installed bar benchmarks/drivers - all 'normal' people would have some background apps going on, all of which use more cores.
 
Dave2150 said:
7800X3D only has 8 cores, so anyone running AAA games with a few background apps open will see performance benefit from a 12 or 16 core model. These reviews are 100% clean systems, nothing installed bar benchmarks/drivers - all 'normal' people would have some background apps going on, all of which use more cores.
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Most games run really well on 6 cores, I doubt 8 will be a limiting factor apart from extreme user edge cases.
 
Dave2150 said:
7800X3D only has 8 cores, so anyone running AAA games with a few background apps open will see performance benefit from a 12 or 16 core model. These reviews are 100% clean systems, nothing installed bar benchmarks/drivers - all 'normal' people would have some background apps going on, all of which use more cores.
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Very few games will max all 8 cores fully. I'm not sure the performance benefit is going to be much to write home about.
 
I feel like I'm pickling myself mentally, the power consumption of the chip has really impressed me. Wondering if its worth swapping my bits for full amd. My cpu is yet to ship but I have the mobo and ram.

Someone tell me its going to be okay? Lol
 
Hostile_18 said:
Most games run really well on 6 cores, I doubt 8 will be a limiting factor apart from extreme user edge cases.
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If you mean running Cyberpunk or Hogwarts with a 4090, then sure, that's an extreme edge case.

This is from my testing with a 7600, 7700 and 13900k - modern games with a few common background apps will happily use more than 8 cores, and the system is more responsive as a result. Minimum FPS values improve.

If you're not using a 4090 though, you don't really need a Zen4 X3D for gaming IMO, as the returns are too low to justify.
 
Frenzy said:
I feel like I'm pickling myself mentally, the power consumption of the chip has really impressed me. Wondering if its worth swapping my bits for full amd. My cpu is yet to ship but I have the mobo and ram.

Someone tell me its going to be okay? Lol
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It's hard not to be impressed tbh, it has lower power draw than the 5800X3D with double the cores and a lot more performance. :)
 
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Dave2150 said:
so anyone running AAA games with a few background apps open will see performance benefit from a 12 or 16 core model
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Dave2150 said:
If you're not using a 4090 though, you don't really need a Zen4 X3D for gaming IMO, as the returns are too low to justify.
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These two statements paint a very different picture.

Anyone running AAA games vs only those with a 4090 running 2 titles.
 
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Frenzy said:
I feel like I'm pickling myself mentally, the power consumption of the chip has really impressed me. Wondering if its worth swapping my bits for full amd. My cpu is yet to ship but I have the mobo and ram.

Someone tell me its going to be okay? Lol
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Power consumption is really the only benefit overall. Even then there are some videos out there that show with some tweaking you can lower the KS's power consumption for very little performance loss if it is a big concern to you.
 
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Yeah, I would have loved to see an undervolted Intel comparison, I mean aren't the stock cpu settings overkill? Are we comparing factory highly optimised amd chips to Intel chips with non optimised factory settings?
 
Frenzy said:
Yeah, I would have loved to see an undervolted Intel comparison, I mean aren't the stock cpu settings overkill? Are we comparing factory highly optimised amd chips to Intel chips with non optimised factory settings?
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This video might help. It's a K CPU and the KS is supposed to be more efficient right? Maybe I have that around the wrong way. Even tweaked it won't match the power efficiency of the 3D chips.
 
Frenzy said:
Yeah, I would have loved to see an undervolted Intel comparison, I mean aren't the stock cpu settings overkill? Are we comparing factory highly optimised amd chips to Intel chips with non optimised factory settings?
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What memory were these tests using on the 13900k? And if they were stock it’s making the 13900k look even worse.
 
Frenzy said:
The techpower up benches at least used 6000MHz and cl36 on both systems
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All I can tell you is even the Cinibench scores on the 13900k I’ve seen are all very low compared to mine which is undervolted. My CPU is not a very good example either. Some of the tests are using curve optimiser etc but leaving Intel stock.
 
Frenzy said:
Yeah, I would have loved to see an undervolted Intel comparison, I mean aren't the stock cpu settings overkill? Are we comparing factory highly optimised amd chips to Intel chips with non optimised factory settings?
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? Stock vs Stock is fair. If AMD tune their CPU's more efficiently out of the box and Intel don't, then this is Intel's problem.

The reviews need (and indeed do) represent what a typical end user can expect, with an out of the box/stock configuration.
 
Frenzy said:
Ram speed doesn't seem to make much of a difference does it? Or is my memory failing me?
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Both sides benefit from tuned RAM, Intel more so as it can go higher, but the differences are not huge.

With X3D, you will get a nice benefit (as shown via TPU) from tuning the CPU using curve optimiser. You will also get some extra performance from tuning the memory, but how much remains to be seen. I saw nice gains on the 7950X by going from EXPO I 6000C30 to 6000C28 with all timings tuned. Reduction in latency from 68ns or so down to 54-55ns in aida64 and games like the lower latency.

Dave2150 said:
? Stock vs Stock is fair. If AMD tune their CPU's more efficiently out of the box and Intel don't, then this is Intel's problem.

The reviews need (and indeed do) represent what a typical end user can expect, with an out of the box/stock configuration.
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Stop it Dave, I've started to agree with a few of your posts recently and this is most unusual behaviour for you. :cry:
 
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