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Sandybridge design flaw recalls beginning!!

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[TW]Fox;18360172 said:
It really isn't. We have a motherboard where some of the SATA ports might not work. This is a minor annoyance, it isnt 'truely awful'.
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For a few people it's a game stopped - if for example they have their storage attached on the other 4 ports. For most people they just have a DVD drive and a hard drive and that's the whack. Or a DVD, SSD and storage drive. In that case disconnect the DVD, I know I barely use mine.

On another note.... I'm sure we've all made mistakes before. Can you think back to the moment you realised you made a mistake, and that you're sure it was you... and the dread that starts in your stomach when it happens. Somewhere, some Intel tech is sitting there with a billion dollar mistake twisting their guts!
 
Anandtech only talk about Intel's two 6GB/s sata ports being ok on their own board, however there's also two Marvell 6GB/s ports as well on the asus pro. I only use 3 ports so would they ok to use or would these most likely be faulty as well? (I know I'm asking for speculation here, but still lol)

Also upon reading about the ports in Asus' manual they state Intel's sata 6GB/s as being gary (whoever he is)... instead of grey ;)
 
What will happen if the SATA ports do deteriorate? Say for example the port which my SSD is connected to goes bad - will the read and write speeds decrease and that is all? Or will it not work at all?
 
DSN said:
Which could be 24 hours.. or could be weeks.
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Nothing's going to happen in 24 hours. It'll take at least 10 weeks for Intel's fabs to produce the new revision of Cougar Point, and that's assuming they know exactly how to fix the design flaw. Since they only isolated the problem yesterday, that's unlikely. Add to that validation to make sure the new chips fix the bug and haven't introduced any new ones, shipping to the motherboard factories in China, production of the boards, testing and packing of the boards, shipping to major markets, etc, and I'd be amazed if anyone gets a new board before mid May. And their probably won't be sufficient quantity of fixed chips to do more than replace old boards for maybe a month after that.

We're talking a good long time before this story runs out of steam.
 
Garee said:
What will happen if the SATA ports do deteriorate? Say for example the port which my SSD is connected to goes bad - will the read and write speeds decrease and that is all? Or will it not work at all?
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If you've got an SSD drive you shouldn't want it connected to a 3GB/s port anyway. Use the fully functioning 6GB/s for now and you'll be fine.
 
[TW]Fox;18360172 said:
It really isn't. We have a motherboard where some of the SATA ports might not work. This is a minor annoyance, it isnt 'truely awful'.
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Well you've paid for your PC to work 100%... accepting something that has a slight performance issue (when people are tweaking to get every last mhz, using SSDs as boot drives) is not acceptable.

Can't see who would deem it acceptable, unless of course the people saying that are the ones who have the motherboards?
 
Intel's wording seems to indicate the drive itself might get damaged. I'm puzzled if that's actually possible or not... but all the same I'd not plug in anything vital to the 3Gbps ports.

This week only? Did OcUK have a premonition? :)
 
Gangster said:
Well you've paid for your PC to work 100%... accepting something that has a slight performance issue (when people are tweaking to get every last mhz, using SSDs as boot drives) is not acceptable.

Can't see who would deem it acceptable, unless of course the people saying that are the ones who have the motherboards?
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Your really missing the point here.

The people with the boards have more reason to be ****ed than anyone.

But the people with the boards realise that its really no BIG deal.

IF you have more than 4x sata devices, 1 of them COULD develop a fault over time. so most people will have 1 2 or 3 HDD's and 1 or 2 cd drives.... so worse impact is you might end up having a slightly slow cd drive.

Use the other one ?

Stop making out like its the end of Intel, This is not even going to affect 99% of the earlier adopters.
 
People that play it down fair do's

If it was me and I "had" upgraded I would have gone in heavy, 2600K and a high end board, new mem etc etc

I would be ****ed off if the chipset wasnt 100%, the board is likely to be surrounded in a lot of instances by top end HW..

Fair do's if some wouldnt mind, maybe I just have high standards :D

On intels side, how did this get through testing then get picked up so quickly on release?. Very suspicious that they have found this fault now - even though alledgedly it will take years to manifest itself.... I smell a rat and I wouldnt be surprised if more faults are forthcoming OR this problem is worse than they are saying.
 
DSN said:
Stop making out like its the end of Intel, This is not even going to affect 99% of the earlier adopters.
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Of course it's not the end of Intel. The damage will be more than it costs them for the product recall, Sandybridge is tainted now - but it may turn out to be only slight.

It will affect more than 1% of the early adopters. Most people are saying they'll swap their boards, that is them affected. Even Fox might choose to do it when he knows he'll not be using it for a few days, a few months down the line.

This will affect most people who have bought a board, and it will make people think twice - even if they still go ahead - before early adoption in the future.
 
Sata ports 0,1 are ok. If that's the Marvell ones then they are ok. Is it possible you have a board with additional ports outside of what the chipset provides? If you do they should be fine too.
 
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