SAPPHIRE RX 480 NITRO NOW AVAILABLE FOR PRE-ORDER AT OVERCLOCKERS UK (WORLD FIRST) !!!

[nutsnut]

Very interested in this card, can anyone advise how much of an upgrade (if any looking at benchmarks) it would be over 7970 crossfire (they've served me well), I only play older titles which generally have good crossfire support and heat, noise and power consumption are not a problem.

 

[RavenXXX2]

The Eteknix review of th e480 Nitro is completely unusable. They managed to measure 100W more power consumption than any other reviever, and managed to get lower Firestrike score at 1360 than my friends ref 480 at 1300.

85 over 1060 watts at pcworld.

http://www.pcworld.com/article/3098...iew-polaris-rethought-and-refined.html?page=9

 

[akarypid]

AMD really haven't made as big a leap in perf per watt as i thought they would. 100watts more at full load compared to the 1060 gaming x!

10 degrees hotter as well but then the gaming x is a very very good cooler.

This is true. I recall distinctly that the '2.5x perf/watt' was referring to the 470, not the 480, so the 'sweet spot' of this chip is in fact the 470. Still, compared to the power hogs of the 28nm cards the improvement is considerable.

A big problem AMD have is that their async compute hardware costs. There's ACE/HWS components, plus all the registers used to save state when tasks are switched... It all costs some watts and it all adds up, but apparently AMD are convinced that it the extra circuitry is worth it in terms of extra performance. Supposedly they know this from consoles.

Only time will tell if that's true. This first round of 5-6 DX12/Vulkan games does give them some advantage, but it varies a lot from one game to another. We will finally have lots of DX12/Vulkan games come out over the next year and we'll see whether the AMD advantage is closer to the level of Hitman/DX12 gives, or more like the level of Doom/Vulkan.

 

[Mtom]

85 over 1060 watts at pcworld.

http://www.pcworld.com/article/3098...iew-polaris-rethought-and-refined.html?page=9

Yep, but 126 below the 390....while at Eteknix they measured that the 480 only consumes 30W less than the 390.

 

[INFYN]

yup they do take the payment I don't think it's illegal, easier when it isn't taken tho because chances of cancelling are high.

Do they? I used Amazon Payments at checkout and can't find the price of the card on my statement. Payment is marked as pending there.

 

[akarypid]

Do they? I used Amazon Payments at checkout and can't find the price of the card on my statement. Payment is marked as pending there.

Maybe it depends on the checkout method. I used Paypal EDIT: and guest checkout and the payment was taken immediately.

EDIT: so maybe it was to do with me not being logged into the store.

 

[dfects]

Maybe it depends on the checkout method. I used Paypal and the payment was taken immediately.

I know from implementing checkouts at work with paypal there are different methods for how it can be set up, but the easiest and most common is for the payment to be taken straight away.

I paid with amazon, no payment taken yet here according to amazon

 

[Egg90]

The Eteknix review of th e480 Nitro is completely unusable. They managed to measure 100W more power consumption than any other reviever, and managed to get lower Firestrike score at 1360 than my friends ref 480 at 1300.

Erm. PCWorld measured 295W total system draw on the 4Gb, and Eteknix measured 302W total system draw on the 8Gb. That's total system, not just the video card.
Did your friend o/c the memory? This card has standard clocks on that.

 

[Seanspeed]

What is up with all these reviews almost singularly focusing on DX12/Vulkan?

 

[grudas]

Maybe it depends on the checkout method. I used Paypal EDIT: and guest checkout and the payment was taken immediately.

EDIT: so maybe it was to do with me not being logged into the store.

I paid through debit card and it was taken straight away, logged in for free delivery

 

[humbug]

Overclockers took my payment straight away too, but it's nothing to get hung up about. Although Amazon never take payment until the order is delivered, the two companies just have two different models, both of which have separate legal consequences.

In the UK (for the moment anyway, until we see how much EU consumer protection law will be abandoned in Brexit), taking payment means the contract is completed, & Overclockers is legally contracted to fulfil the order & that gives you loads of additional consumer rights. Amazon doesn't take payment, which means you have no rights at all in law regarding the order. Swings & roundabouts, (until Brexit is complete in 2018/19 anyway)!

As for the electricity use with this card, it remains a concern for me as my system is on 24/7 & runs at max not less than 50 hours a week rendering video for work, (along with temp as I have 8 separate HDD's & a Blu-ray writer in my case & all PCIe slots are full too) & might yet cancel & replace with a 1060, but on the other side of that equation, I am hoping the new card will cut that time to 30 hours a week or less! ?

But if its shipped before I can find a 1060 with 2x HDMI, I guess I'll just stick with it. Am however annoyed about the power efficiency claims made by AMD pre-launch!

@15p per 1Kw hour it will cost you 45p per week more to run than the 1060 provided the GPU is at full chat all of that 50 hours per week time.

 

[Scougar]

@15p per 1Kw hour it will cost you 45p per week more to run than the 1060 provided the GPU is at full chat all of that 50 hours per week time.

[Agreement Sarcasm]Shocking amount[\Agreement Sarcasm] lol.

 

[akarypid]

Overclockers took my payment straight away too, but it's nothing to get hung up about. Although Amazon never take payment until the order is delivered, the two companies just have two different models, both of which have separate legal consequences.

In the UK (for the moment anyway, until we see how much EU consumer protection law will be abandoned in Brexit), taking payment means the contract is completed, & Overclockers is legally contracted to fulfil the order & that gives you loads of additional consumer rights. Amazon doesn't take payment, which means you have no rights at all in law regarding the order. Swings & roundabouts, (until Brexit is complete in 2018/19 anyway)!

As for the electricity use with this card, it remains a concern for me as my system is on 24/7 & runs at max not less than 50 hours a week rendering video for work, (along with temp as I have 8 separate HDD's & a Blu-ray writer in my case & all PCIe slots are full too) & might yet cancel & replace with a 1060, but on the other side of that equation, I am hoping the new card will cut that time to 30 hours a week or less! ?

But if its shipped before I can find a 1060 with 2x HDMI, I guess I'll just stick with it. Am however annoyed about the power efficiency claims made by AMD pre-launch!

You'd probably be better off with a 1060 if power/heat is the primary concern.

Do you render video? In that case, how much of those 8 hours a day is due to encoding the video? I've read around forums that somehow the 480 is very efficient in encoding H.265 video due to hardware support for it? Not sure whether that portion of the processing is significant though (i.e if encoding is 1 of 8 hours it probably won't make enough of a difference to consider the 480).

 

[Sszaki]

Buy extra 32GB ram. You will shorten rendering time and save money.

 

[DeadMan3000]

I can only overclock my R9 290 to full using Trixx which allows me to up the mV. In the Radeon software it limits me to default. BTW Trixx really needs gaming profiles! So it will overclock at game launch and reset on game exit. How do I request this from them? Open a ticket?

 

[Panos]

(a)Overclockers took my payment straight away too, but it's nothing to get hung up about. Although Amazon never take payment until the order is delivered, the two companies just have two different models, both of which have separate legal consequences.

(b)In the UK (for the moment anyway, until we see how much EU consumer protection law will be abandoned in Brexit), taking payment means the contract is completed, & Overclockers is legally contracted to fulfil the order & that gives you loads of additional consumer rights. Amazon doesn't take payment, which means you have no rights at all in law regarding the order. Swings & roundabouts, (until Brexit is complete in 2018/19 anyway)!

(c)As for the electricity use with this card, it remains a concern for me as my system is on 24/7 & runs at max not less than 50 hours a week rendering video for work, (along with temp as I have 8 separate HDD's & a Blu-ray writer in my case & all PCIe slots are full too) & might yet cancel & replace with a 1060, but on the other side of that equation, I am hoping the new card will cut that time to 30 hours a week or less! ?

But if its shipped before I can find a 1060 with 2x HDMI, I guess I'll just stick with it. Am however annoyed about the power efficiency claims made by AMD pre-launch!

a) Amazon Pre-Orders process is the ONLY e-tailer that doesn't get money on order. Everyone else does. Computer games, Steam, a gazillion shops I use for Infinity pre-orders including the parent company.

b) I do not think you understand what you write on paragraph 2.
Both companies allow you to cancel pre-orders and get your money back. hell ALL companies allow you to cancel pre-orders and if charged you get the money back in full. And I do it all the time when needed.

c) GTX1060 FE on average burns on idle 8W less than the RX480 and 45W less on full load.
Lets put that into perspective.

Depending the rendering software you use your card will either be idle or full load....
So

Idle.
8W x 50 hours per week = 400Wh, at avg price £0.15 per KWh equals £0.06 per week, £3.12 per year....

Full load constantly.
45W x 50hours = 2.25Kwh x £0.15 = £0.3375 per week, or £17.55 per year.

What is your CPU btw?

 

[Yutang13]

c) GTX1060 FE on average burns on idle 8W less than the RX480 and 45W less on full load.

You may want to link your source for that btw.

 

[Bonjour]

If you're using W10, click on the icon (start) & scroll until you see the large letter C & click on Calculator. Type:

50 (average watts consumed more than the 1060 at load) x 365.25 (days in the year) x 7.14 (No of hours at peak) = 130 (Kwh)

Then:

10 (Average watts consumed more than 1060 when in use idling) x365.25 x 16.86 (hours if the day remaining) = 61 Kwh

130 + 61 = 191 Kwh @ British Gas standard tariff 30.01p per Kwh = £57.49 a year! That's what running a 480 will cost more than a 1060 based on my average usage for work, it will cost more the moment I play any games!

Also, because energy is purchased in $, not £, the price of electricity will increase over the next few months too, as the £ has already fallen by more than 10%. Sometimes being an AMD fanboy can't be that good, can it?

I pity you. You don't get any days off work and haven't got a fixed energy deal.

 

[Geck0]

If you're using W10, click on the icon (start) & scroll until you see the large letter C & click on Calculator. Type:

50 (average watts consumed more than the 1060 at load) x 365.25 (days in the year) x 7.14 (No of hours at peak) = 130 (Kwh)

Then:

10 (Average watts consumed more than 1060 when in use idling) x365.25 x 16.86 (hours if the day remaining) = 61 Kwh

130 + 61 = 191 Kwh @ British Gas standard tariff 30.01p per Kwh = £57.49 a year! That's what running a 480 will cost more than a 1060 based on my average usage for work, it will cost more the moment I play any games!

Also, because energy is purchased in $, not £, the price of electricity will increase over the next few months too, as the £ has already fallen by more than 10%. Sometimes being an AMD fanboy can't be that good, can it?

Try a 10th time. If 16 pence a day runs your life I suggest you upgrade that before your video card mate, just sayin.

 

[Killer7xx]

If you're using W10, click on the icon (start) & scroll until you see the large letter C & click on Calculator. Type:

50 (average watts consumed more than the 1060 at load) x 365.25 (days in the year) x 7.14 (No of hours at peak) = 130 (Kwh)

Then:

10 (Average watts consumed more than 1060 when in use idling) x365.25 x 16.86 (hours if the day remaining) = 61 Kwh

130 + 61 = 191 Kwh @ British Gas standard tariff 30.01p per Kwh = £57.49 a year! That's what running a 480 will cost more than a 1060 based on my average usage for work, it will cost more the moment I play any games!

Also, because energy is purchased in $, not £, the price of electricity will increase over the next few months too, as the £ has already fallen by more than 10%. Sometimes being an AMD fanboy can't be that good, can it?

Firstly, that would only apply if the cards are at max utilisation for the whole period, which is not going to happen in most realistic gaming scenarios. Secondly, who the hell pays 30.01p per Kwh? If you're paying that much you seriously need to switch suppliers because they're running away with your money. Lastly, having the PC on 24 hours a day is not something that most people do neither is gaming for 7 hours a day.

If we go by a more realistic version of your calculation, let's say 4 hours of gaming per day and 4 hours idling.

0.05KW x 365.25 x 4 = 73.05KWh per year.

0.01KW x 365.25 x 4 = 14.61KWh per year.

73.05 + 14.61 = 87.66 KWh extra per year, at a rate of 16.15p per KWh (one of the higher tariffs in the market), it comes to 87.66 x 0.1615 = £14.16 extra per year. That's assuming peak power consumption for the whole duration of the 4 hours spent gaming, and that you follow this exact routine 365 days a year! Yeah that's not gonna happen...