Same as others from the EU (excluding the guffs of course!. I should add, I'm a guff...) so picked up by the Scottish Government.
Hmmm, then how is that possible if Switzerland is not part of the EU?
Scottish University Fees facing Legal Challenge
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Hmmm, then how is that possible if Switzerland is not part of the EU?
Soldato
Only 2 "fair" ways I can see is:
1. Swiss pay for their student's fees
2. There is a reciprocal agreement if Scottish students went to Switzerland.
Where's cumulus when you need him?
Don
So is a Scottish university education at the moment.
It has signed bilateral agreements with the EU. I can quote the relevant law if you don't believe me?
Only 2 "fair" ways I can see is:
1. Swiss pay for their student's fees
2. There is a reciprocal agreement if Scottish students went to Switzerland.
Where's cumulus when you need him?
I had not considered the second option.
It must be something like that.
Yet the criteria for eligibility is not.
It doesn't sound like it, free to Scottish and eu, where English only a few get it free. Only taken from above posts as I have no idea. That is not the same as council tax or anything else.
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Anti Scotland posts here are well funny. Also I agree non Scottish students should be made to pay to stop a large flow of students into Scotland to take advantage of this. The EU can be so annoying at times interfering with our policies.
Its up to the government to spend its budget as it sees fit, if that means less taxes, free education or what ever its up to them to allocate the funds and reduce services else where. Its not like Holywood goes begging cap in hand to Westminister for more cash for it.
Its up to the government to spend its budget as it sees fit, if that means less taxes, free education or what ever its up to them to allocate the funds and reduce services else where. Its not like Holywood goes begging cap in hand to Westminister for more cash for it.
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Will be interesting to see how the 'Scotland is a separate country' gang react to this. I actually think this is being gone at the wrong way; Scotland should be able charge students from other EU countries whatever they like, as should the rest of the UK.
No, in Switzerland we pay the same as a Swiss student.
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Don
It isn't free to Scottish, it's only free to most Scottish people based on the same rules that anyone else from the UK would be subject to (ordinarily domiciled in Scotland). The only people pretty much guaranteed to get it free are non-UK EU citizens.
Even with that it still not like council tax, non uk - EU citizens, don't pay a different council tax when living in a uk house do they. I still dont see how it is comparable.
I can see this going through the courts and winning, but which side the coin will land is the hard bit.
Don
Ok council tax probably isn't a good example, but with free prescriptions, what would then stop someone claiming discrimination that they don't qualify for them because they live in England? Or how about free elderly care, they could just send their relatives upto Scotland to avoid paying any additional charges that they need to pay in England.
Which means the eligibility is inherently unfair and treats EU citizens differently based on their geographical location within the EU, which is effectively discrimination.
It's the same and not descrimination. Council tax and prescriptions is based on your residential address. Not what EU state you came from, irrespective of full time address. Therefore it is applied fairly to everyone.
Prescription isn't just a England/Scottish divide. Different drugs are available in different counties. Meaning people have had to move.
Prescription isn't just a England/Scottish divide. Different drugs are available in different counties. Meaning people have had to move.
Because they live in England, the same as if someone lived in France.
If that Englishman and Frenchman moved to Scotland they would qualify for Free prescriptions. Yet if the same Englishman and Frenchman moved to Scotland and sent their kids to University only the Frenchman would be eligible, yet both are EU citizens. Therein lies the discrimination.
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Don
So the natural consequence is that the EU students are subject to the same rules and hence don't qualify for a free education, I get you.
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Does that also mean it's unfair that english folk don't get to vote in the Scottish elections? As that's location based too...
Quite, the eligibility should be applied equally to all EU citizens regardless of their country of origin. It is the unfairness that I disagree with, not the ability of the Scottish Govt to set fees at whatever they wish for the Scottish people, that is something for the rest of the UK to bring up with their respective governments.
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