Sexual remarks at work

I would never complain only point out the double standard unofficially. Even in the training session itself. It wouldn't bother me what was said, only the double standard that a women can get away with saying it. We have women at work from marketing department that dress in tight dresses and tight tops which stick their breasts out all pointing, then they moan about you looking at their curves.
 
I think it's the double standard that's most annoying. A woman can tell you to "get your **** out for the girls" and it's "banter", but if a man says a woman "looks nice today", he's a pedo rapist on the prowl making a hostile workplace. Even men (as seen in this thread) support this double standard.
 
OMG try working on a building site!

How would you like crusty knickers rubbed in your face?

OP, stop crying like a baby.
 
It seems like the OP just isn't sure if he should complain because his gender wouldn't get away with the same behaviour.

The answer is easy, Hell NO.

You were not offended but you sound like you think you should be based on the crap some females do in the same position.

By complaining you are effectively becoming just like them and then trying to beat them at their own game, its not going to happen. Not a smart move as not only does this make you look like a right wussy, it makes you a boring killjoy who less people will want to have a laugh with. Its lose all the way down.

If the injustice of it bothers you that much, make a note of the "incident" and if you are ever in the position of being accused of inappropriate comments, use it as an example of why you thought it was "acceptable behaviour", it was a trainer after all. Its not likely to work well, but its better than being a boring wussy who nobody want to talk to.

We should not want to be like the feminazi...ever.
 
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Doesn't sound that bad to me, and as people have said, only complain about it if you are genuinely offended. I've suffered worse in the past and did not lodge a complaint.
 
agnes said:
I'll keep this short, I had a safety training session. Hosted by a middle age slightly overweight woman. Lovely lady, funny and really helpful. In the training was the trainer, 1 young girl and 2 young guys and my self (guy).

However, throughout the training (medical equipment safety procedures) she would make 'sexual remarks' meant as jokes.

"Always take your belts off to enter the MRI scanner otherwise it will be pulled off, by the MRI scanner or me"

"In case of fire, press said button, firemen will turn up with big hoses and make all the ladies happy"

And even something about making men strip to their underwear in some situation and how she enjoyed it.

Multiple remarks like the above intended with tongue in cheek humour. The girl laughed at most but us guys felt properly awkward and a guy even said he did to me after.

Now, reverse the roles, put a middle ages fat man making remarks about young girls getting naked and he'd have his P45 before his next cup of tea.

I want to complain but don't think it's worth the effort as it's 'banter' and 'humour'.

Thoughts?
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Well no the guy would only be getting busted if one of the women complained.

She isn't getting busted for it because you like most men don't complain.


The issue isn't a disparity in punishment it's a disparity in reporting.

Men typical don't report this kind of stuff as it's socially accepted that you as a man should find it funny where as a woman should complain as she should find it upsetting and degrading.

You can't complain that she's not being reprimanded if your not reporting her as how the hell are her managers meant to know unless you tell them
 
Rich_L said:
Workplace clearly needs Sexual Harassment Panda to visit
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Sadly I missed my invite to the thread opening party and so am just catching up, however the bad news is that our minds appear to be on a similar wavelength. OP is doubtless now a Sad Panda...

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Women are just as bad as men at work - that's confirmed by some close work colleague at a place at work (she's 100% into women before anyone jumps to conclusions).

I've had women pressed against me with arm around me (so hard that my body separated breasts) at the office party (my boss, a woman was watching the whole thing), breasts balanced on arm whilst using mouse at the desk, comment about fat fingers (wink) via email, "large package" talking about jeans on a friday, big feet, propositioned to join her in the toilet (she's now happily married with kids), saying she's big-O at desk whilst on IM through chatting (nothing bad in IM), and my favourite.. a rather 'prim and proper lady' rotating her body and pulling her bra cup forward to expose her breast and nipple (that particular lady was leaving the company that day! I was single so we swapped numbers :D). All different women, all different companies and locations.

So no - it's not only women that are on the receiving end. The problem is - when it impacts both your performances at doing your job.

atpbx said:
This is just women being women. They are filthy things.
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Indeed.. but don't tar every woman the same. In the same way that not every man or every work relationship is tinged with Game-of-Thrones lust!
 
BrightonBelle said:
It is inappropriate.
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For a training course presenter - this. It should not be confused with innuendo. Todo so fogs the communication and people will not learn anything.

Sounds like the presenter is so bored of her job it's affecting her ability todo it.. perhaps a change of jobs would be better all around.
 
helpimcrap said:
I got told off in a review for calling a female colleague 'smart and beautiful' after she had really helped me to understand something others couldn't help me with.
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The smart bit is covered by your reasoning, but 'beautiful'? Making comments about people's natural physical appearance during a review is a bit weird.
 
new boy said:
What is this?

She's just having a laugh, I don't want to live in this society anymore...
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However the OP didn't indicate if lives depended on the training given :) I assume that I've taken the furthest scenario but there are other ways to engage people during training without resorting to Benny Hill..
 
NickK said:
However the OP didn't indicate if lives depended on the training given :) I assume that I've taken the furthest scenario but there are other ways to engage people during training without resorting to Benny Hill..
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Perhaps, but its better than having someone drone on at you with a monotone voice putting no emotion into your training.
 
Well after reading this thread its quite obvious that if a woman makes an inappropriate comment then its just "Banter" or a Laugh to lighten the mood. If a man makes any reference to anything sexual regardless of context or entendre then its harassment or he is some sort of workplace sexual predator. W

I work in a place where one of the girls often has her underwear showing (She often wears a thong or g-string and often very high) One of my colleagues asked me the other day, genuinely concerned that she didn't know that her underwear was showing, if he should tell her. One of the managers overheard this and pulled him into the office and told him not to refer to anything like that and mind his own business as ANY remark towards a female colleague could be construed as sexual harassment. Then the day after, in the works kitchen, she remarked "Nice Calvins" to one of the other workers while he was bending over into the fridge to get the milk.

Double standards....Welcome to the world we live in.. :(
 
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