Shall I get an AE86?
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I'd have to go along with the consensus, they're not that special and are hideously overpriced. Having said that if you want one for the short term then pick up a good one and look after it. You're unlikely to lose much on it over the course of a year or so.
saitrix said:Don't worry I like the MX5 so i wont laugh.
What engine was it in the S13 then?
The S13 has a 1.8 16v turbo with 165 to 180hp as standard, depending upon whether or not it had a cat. It was also VERY easy to tune. Just throwing away the air restrictor that goes into the airbox supposedly gives 5hp (was there to help drive by noise regs).
As for the debate about fwd hatches. Fox is almost right in his comments, i.e. that fwd is cheaper, lighter and has better packaging. Unfortunately it overlooks the fact that the 1 series really does have better steering than it's competitors (not corrupted by power) and that it's a lot of fun.
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Really not sure what insurance would be like really with a 1.8 Turbo. Its about 0-60 in about 7 seconds isnt it?
I suppose its really down to the insurance cost and what i think to the drive of the cars. Really does look like between MX5 and S13. I looked on autotrader and i didnt realise just how cheap S13's were.
I suppose its really down to the insurance cost and what i think to the drive of the cars. Really does look like between MX5 and S13. I looked on autotrader and i didnt realise just how cheap S13's were.
You could try looking into Isuzu Piazzas if you can find one. They sound like pretty nifty cars, 147 bhp, rwd hatchback. The only problem is they're seriously rare. Not sure what they're like other tan that though, info on them is also hard to find.
This sounds like a good place to start.
This sounds like a good place to start.
You've got to be careful with the S13's - the big ends are prone to failure if the engine hasn't been looked after (regular oil changes etc), due to a bad design of the oil pickup pipe, for one thing!
For the money of an AE86 (£5k), you'll be looking at an S14a Touring, which will be a ~97-99, and has an SR20DET (2.0 litre, 16v, turbo) engine, with about 240bhp as standard, again, very tuneable, like the CA18DET.
For the money of an AE86 (£5k), you'll be looking at an S14a Touring, which will be a ~97-99, and has an SR20DET (2.0 litre, 16v, turbo) engine, with about 240bhp as standard, again, very tuneable, like the CA18DET.
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4k and RWD, even though i love the MX i wouldn't buy one for 4k, not that fond of the MK1 and you deffo would want the 1.8 over the 1.6.
I really like the 200sx and it would be my choice for 4k, if you could get 6 - 7k together i would go for a Mk2 MX.
I really like the 200sx and it would be my choice for 4k, if you could get 6 - 7k together i would go for a Mk2 MX.
Firestar_3x said:
See I like the Mk1 myself.
Also yes the 1.8 would be the engine of choice me thinks.I suppose the S13 is easier on the insurance compared to the S14a?
Fox,
Really RWD is a requirement to me now. You know, i think i wouldnt mind having a test drive of the 5 series.
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[TW]Fox said:
what benefits do you think a V6 mondeo would have over an 200sx? the mondeo's are slower, less tunable, probably as thirsty, not RWD, fairly lardy,
bmw - not even in the same town as an MX5 or a 200sx?
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Thanks for that utterly useless reply. He didn't ask that, he asked me personally what I would spend £4k on.
I answered that question.
As he asked me what *I* would spent £4k on, I can explain to you exactly what a Mondeo or a 5 Series has over a 200SX or an MX5.
The 5 Series does not have a horrible, nasty, cheap, flimsey, disgusting looking interior and a boot which goes CLANG every time it shuts.
Whilst the Mondeo isn't built as well the as 5, it also has an interior thats more pleasing than that of the 200SX and the MX5. Both cars also have a considerably higher level of standard equipment.
I know what your reply is going to be - please, don't bother. He asked me wahat *I* would chose. I know the MX5 handles amazingly, I know the 200SX is far more tuneable than a 528i, but for me, neither would be anywhere near the list for the reasons I describe
I'm probably the biggest AE86 fan there is on this forum, having driven, repaired and navigated in quite a few of them.
However, the Initial D/Import craze which has all snowballed at once has driven prices beyond the sensible. A nice standard one should (note I say "should" not "will") set you back between £800 and £2000, whereas in reality you will be lucky to find one much under £4000 these days.
It's a bit like when you're favourite little quiet restaurant tucked away in the backstreets of a big city becomes renowned and suddenly popular, hikes their prices and is packed to the rafters every night. Very upsetting
However, the Initial D/Import craze which has all snowballed at once has driven prices beyond the sensible. A nice standard one should (note I say "should" not "will") set you back between £800 and £2000, whereas in reality you will be lucky to find one much under £4000 these days.
It's a bit like when you're favourite little quiet restaurant tucked away in the backstreets of a big city becomes renowned and suddenly popular, hikes their prices and is packed to the rafters every night. Very upsetting
The mondeo at least has the advantage of practicality. What is the car going to be used for? I'm assuming daily driver which is also fun to take for a bit of a blast? A 200SX sounds like it would do that well assuming you don't need the back seats to be too roomy or the practicality of a hatch.
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Nope