Should capital punishment be brought back?

If we don't have the death penalty can we agree that people who murder others should assume to spend the rest of their life in prison?

Yes, for murder life should mean life. At least then, if they do turn out to be innocent, then at least they can be freed. Digging them up and apologising to their corpse doesn't have the same ring to it.

Given the current crime detection rate from our police forces a hangman's job would entail a LOT of sitting around waiting....

Don't you mean hanging around waiting?
 
There have been a couple of cases in the UK from when people had the death penalty given and were then executed. They've since been exonerated after death.

Surely any rational person would conclude that these people should have been allowed to live?
 
No to bringing back the death penalty. On another note i think our prisons are too cushy - tv's, games consoles, hobbies, etc should not be available for entertainment for child murderers. Should be equipped like american supermax prisons i.e. a bed, toilet.
 
What if someone confessed to the crime of murder, and dna evidence backed it up, would the people against the death penalty still be against it in that situation?

Even having the death penalty as an option for the very small amount of cases where this would be applicable would still cost more than jailing them.

There would be reams of extra paper work, more govt departments, more specialist lawyers, hearings, facilities, facilities audits, etc, etc, etc. And for what benefit exactly?
 
No to bringing back the death penalty. On another note i think our prisons are too cushy - tv's, games consoles, hobbies, etc should not be available for entertainment for child murderers. Should be equipped like american supermax prisons i.e. a bed, toilet.
I think you're confusing perks for good behaviour and basic human rights, I know of a lot of prisoners (across a few different jails) who don't have access to TVs and games consoles due to not 'toeing the line', these things are rewards\incentives, as for education are seriously saying that we shouldn't provide education\job training to prisoners, how do you break that circle of re-offending if you don't give them the tools to function in society when they get out? Yes there are career criminals (and I do see quite a few 'returnees') but some have no skills or qualifications so by giving them those you give them a good chance to turn their lives around upon release.

Or is your view of prisons as punishment places rather punishment and rehabilitation?

Of course there are those who cannot (or in a few cases shouldn't) be offered the chance of rehabilitation Fred & Rose West, Ian Huntley, Peter Sutcliffe etc. but as many people have said we're supposed to be a civilised society and you cannot ignore that as and when it suits.
 
100% no. There have been many miscarriages of justice in the past, secondly we are not barbarians, thirdly life in prison is a much greater punishment than the death penalty, fourthly it is prohibited by the Human Rights Act

Personally, I'd rather go to prison than get her death penalty myself


But no, I wouldn't bring it back. Not because of the punishment, I believe the worst crimes can warrant death.. But more because it's rare can be that guaranteed you have sentenced the right person.
 
What would you have them do? Stare at a wall all day, go mad, and cause the prison guards a problem?
yes quite happily in the case of someone like Lucy Letby.

I think you're confusing perks for good behaviour and basic human rights, I know of a lot of prisoners (across a few different jails) who don't have access to TVs and games consoles due to not 'toeing the line', these things are rewards\incentives, as for education are seriously saying that we shouldn't provide education\job training to prisoners, how do you break that circle of re-offending if you don't give them the tools to function in society when they get out? Yes there are career criminals (and I do see quite a few 'returnees') but some have no skills or qualifications so by giving them those you give them a good chance to turn their lives around upon release.

Or is your view of prisons as punishment places rather punishment and rehabilitation?

Of course there are those who cannot (or in a few cases shouldn't) be offered the chance of rehabilitation Fred & Rose West, Ian Huntley, Peter Sutcliffe etc. but as many people have said we're supposed to be a civilised society and you cannot ignore that as and when it suits.
See my above sentence. I do believe in rehabilitation in most cases but not all. I'd have no issue with child killers being executed but don't think the death penalty should return for the simple reason it's been used on innocent people before.
 
No, but what is quite surprising is how many people would support it going off YouGov polling. A thread like this would have you believe very few people support it.


Brexit happened. Aren't there about 3 brexiteers on the forum?

Ocuk is a TERRIBLE proxy for the general population
 
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