Poll: Should Gary McKinnon be extradited to the US for hacking?
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apparently their not. and as the servers/system he hacked where in America it could be argued he committed the crime in American territory.
But/and disregarding justice as it has historically been disregarded, it is currently of more political gain for the UK to deport him.
That sentence makes no sense. Why would the Yanks try a Chinese national for hacking into a British military system, unless the crime was commited in the US?
Good question. Probably not I would say, double standards.
You have to take it into context though, he had no malicious intent, misguided, yes. 70 years? No.
Hm so we've gone from ufo's to technical info of a real nature.
Tbh if hats what he was looking for then he deserves it as that covers everything from nuclear enrichment to B52 designs.
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I'm thinking, but there is no way I can think of accessing any system without being able to save any of the information
No they are not. Read this post.
He is not accused of terrorist activity and the US is not using anti-terror legislation to get him extradited.
Good question. Probably not I would say, double standards.
You have to take it into context though, he had no malicious intent, misguided, yes. 70 years? No.
No you're confusing intent with excuse.
he may well have been looking for info that would have got him a Chinese citizen ship plane + a job but he failed.
But you're right on double standards, that's a basic fact of life protect your self and your own at the cost of others.
Personally i support it, as fortunately i happen to live within the most powerful political block, if china/Russia joined and became more powerful you can bet I'm defecting as soon as i find something worthy of citizenship.
I'm thinking, but there is no way I can think of accessing any system without being able to save any of the information
True surely anything he found was in his RAM and perfectly capable to be copied, even the lowliest pirates have used this fact to beat what is frankly amazing copy protection.
No, he said he was looking for evidence of a UFO coverup and suppression of free energy technology:
McKinnon has admitted in many public statements to unauthorised access of computer systems in the United States including those mentioned in the United States indictment.
He claims his motivation, drawn from a statement made before the Washington Press Club on May 9, 2001 by the "The Disclosure Project", was to find evidence of UFOs, antigravity technology, and the suppression of "Free Energy", all of which he claims to have proven through his actions.
In his interview with the BBC he also claimed that "The Disclosure Project" says there is "extraterrestrial in origin and [they've] captured spacecraft and reverse engineered it." He also claimed to have downloaded a low-resolution image of "something not man-made" and "cigar shaped" floating above the northern hemisphere.
He said that unfortunately he did not manage to get a screenshot or recording of the image because he was "bedazzled" to see the image, could not remember the capture function in the software RemotelyAnywhere, and that he was "cut off" from his connection.
It is also stated in a YouTube interview that McKinnon could not possibly have downloaded (higher resolution versions of) the images due to their size, as he was on a dial-up modem which would have been too slow.
Wiki.
In other words, he didn't find what he claimed to be looking for, then tried to claim that he had found it but couldn't remember where his "save" button was
confused.
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Well it's what I heard and read a whille back, I'm happy to be proved wrong. I know he wasn't being charged with anything terrorism related just that the laws that they where extroditing with, where introduced to tackle terrorism. That was the arguement I heard from him any how.
Still it makes no difference to me, the crime was not committed on US soil. They can argue until the cows come home, but no way would a jury (with some knowledge of IT) believe any argumenets to say that this crime was committed in the US, it's a silly arguement.
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He didnt turn down the offer, he asked for it to be put in writing, which they wouldnt do.
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I was following a rather more simple doctrine. If he could *see* that he'd found what he was looking for then he could have used his "Print Screen" button
But your point is certainly validEither way i still agree with him being tried in the USA but the qouted 70 years does seem extreme.
You can't go around hacking into a countries defence network and expect only a slap on the wrist for it.
No he's not going under terror reg,s but would you want an a foreign hacker tried here or aboard. Considering what he broke into is located on brit territory not his.
I was following a rather more simple doctrine. If he could *see* that he'd found what he was looking for then he could have used his "Print Screen" button
ROFL, I didn't even think of that >.<