Should prohibition end?

The only real "stoners" I know are wasters. Some of my pals from school are still doing the things they were doing at 18, ten years on. Living with their mums, dossing about and spending all their meagre amounts of cash on weed

For these reasons I would be reluctant to have such drugs legalised. If you can use cannabis responsibly, fair play, I used to indulge every now and then. Then I grew up
 
d_brennen said:
The only real "stoners" I know are wasters. Some of my pals from school are still doing the things they were doing at 18, ten years on. Living with their mums, dossing about and spending all their meagre amounts of cash on weed

For these reasons I would be reluctant to have such drugs legalised. If you can use cannabis responsibly, fair play, I used to indulge every now and then. Then I grew up
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The vast majority of smokers I know are university graduates in mid- to well-paid employment. Most houseshare, some are married. They tend to buy their weed off the type of stoners you mostly know.

I've seen a vast, vast range of smokers in my years, and yes, probably a good portion of 'stoners' are accurately described by your classification. The point here is that they're stoners - that fact defines a large part of who they are. The vast majority of smokers I know aren't stoners, they just smoke weed from time to time. The vast majority of drinkers I know aren't raging alcoholics, they just drink from time to time.

Personally, I used to smoke a lot - daily, in fact, going through maybe half an ounce a week. Then I cut down to getting an 8th for the weekend, now I only ever buy for events like trekking up for a party in Southampton or a gig in London. Never had any negative side-effects, never had any negative impact on my life. Legalise it.
 
d_brennen said:
The only real "stoners" I know are wasters. Some of my pals from school are still doing the things they were doing at 18, ten years on. Living with their mums, dossing about and spending all their meagre amounts of cash on weed
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Some people are happy living with less and aren't bothered if they are graded lowly based on what society deems to be "successful". If they are happy who cares? I don't :).

I do think that scrounging off parents like that for too long (even in the current economic climate) is a bit low though, but I think being a burden on anyone is a bad thing.

As for the weed... moderation!

And Deadbeat is spot on, I know "stoners" back in the uk, but here those I know who smoke the stuff do relatively well for themselves.
 
I think the government should manufacture poisoned batches of drugs and covertly insert them into the market. Then drug users would never know if they were going to get a fatal hit or not. And use something that doesn't simply kill you, it gives you a long agonizing death like that guy the Russians poisoned.
 
kwerk said:
I think the government should manufacture poisoned batches of drugs and covertly insert them into the market. Then drug users would never know if they were going to get a fatal hit or not. And use something that doesn't simply kill you, it gives you a long agonizing death like that guy the Russians poisoned.
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Another high-quality, top-tier post from kwerk. :rolleyes:
 
kwerk said:
I think the government should manufacture poisoned batches of drugs and covertly insert them into the market. Then drug users would never know if they were going to get a fatal hit or not. And use something that doesn't simply kill you, it gives you a long agonizing death like that guy the Russians poisoned.
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You don't need drugs though, you're already in your own little world where the grass is blue, black people can't grow beards and sesame street are preparing everyone for dooms day.
 
I really don't see a reason for cannabis to be illegal (unless we see the role of the state as to attempt to forcibly prevent us from making decisions which may put us at increased risk of harm - in which case I look forward to the impending bans on sale of alcohol, tobacco, fast food, motorized transport, horse riding (David Nutt f.t.w), water deeper than 1m, living in high-crime areas, fires, scissors, and walking with hands in pockets).

There seems to be little evidence that it is substantially dangerous (of course there will be a few cases where it might have sever side effects (much like peanuts)), and even less evidence that banning it actually does any good. It seems to be a case of social stigma triumphing over actual evidence.
 
GreatAuk said:
I really don't see a reason for cannabis to be illegal (unless we see the role of the state as to attempt to forcibly prevent us from making decisions which may put us at increased risk of harm - in which case I look forward to the impending bans on sale of alcohol, tobacco, fast food, motorized transport, horse riding (David Nutt f.t.w), water deeper than 1m, living in high-crime areas, fires, scissors, and walking with hands in pockets).

There seems to be little evidence that it is substantially dangerous (of course there will be a few cases where it might have sever side effects (much like peanuts)), and even less evidence that banning it actually does any good. It seems to be a case of social stigma triumphing over actual evidence.
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It is just that, Nice post there mate.
 
Raikiri said:
You don't need drugs though, you're already in your own little world where the grass is blue, black people can't grow beards and sesame street are preparing everyone for dooms day.
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Actually I fully support Raikiri's right to put whatever he wants inside his own body. Who are the government to say what he can or cant put up there.
 
kwerk said:
Actually I fully support Raikiri's right to put whatever he wants inside his own body. Who are the government to say what he can or cant put up there.
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I don't take drugs, or smoke but as you say people should have the right to do what they want with their own body.
 
I have always wanted to see drugs made legal, simply because the money goes from organised gangs into corporations. It can also be better regulated, most of the time someone is made ill from a drug, it is because of what it was cut with. This can include arsnic, rat posion, cleaning agents all of it worse than the actual drug.

In my head, everyone has the choice to do whatever they please as long as it does not negativly affect others. If you choose to take hard dangerous drugs, it's your choice.
 
StonedPenguin said:
I don't fella, I grow my own :)

But your not looking at the big picture are you? ...
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That cannabis has enough addictive qualities for you to be regularly prepared to break the law, and, in the case of growing your own, risk a criminal record and potential prison sentence suggests to me that legalisation would be "a bad thing".
 
Cannabis users are clearly a menace to society - the amount of times I woke up to discover no bread left for toast was ridiculous...

I've got no particularly strong feelings about the legalisation of drugs, in general I think people should be allowed to do what they like to themselves provided they aren't harming others with their actions.
 
Athanor said:
That cannabis has enough addictive qualities for you to be regularly prepared to break the law, and, in the case of growing your own, risk a criminal record and potential prison sentence suggests to me that legalisation would be "a bad thing".
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No, he likes it enough to break the law, it's not addictive in the same sense heroin is.

And I seriously doubt they would lock someone up for growing their own.
 
I think they should all be legalised, and to a small extent for safety reasons they should be regulated I.e heroin should be pure. The easiest way to regulate this might well be a state monopoly on supply.

From a political view point I don't believe that the state should interfere in what people choose to do to themselves. As long as you aren't harming others it is no one else's business.
 
I find it very amusing people in here bad-mouth drugs like cannabis but probably drink alcohol. I really cannot be bothered to discuss the matter with people so ignorant and hypocritical.

d_brennen said:
Then I grew up
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So you're saying that a person's choice to smoke weed is a reflection of their maturity level? How, err, very mature of you.
 
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