Show us your kitty cats
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So, I went to Pets at Home for some different litter, this weekend, and after checking out what they had to offer I came away with a bag of their own brand, low dust litter for £6 (not the £20 for half as much "World's Best...")
It does the job perfectly; no odour at all, it clumps well and is cheap. The only issue is that Luna tends to carry it on her paws for a short distance so I have to sweep it up (off kitchen floor tiles) but I was expecting that from any brand to be honest.
Interestingly, the reviews on their website are almost all 1 star, which surprised me considering some of the reviews for World's Best mention similar issues.
It does the job perfectly; no odour at all, it clumps well and is cheap. The only issue is that Luna tends to carry it on her paws for a short distance so I have to sweep it up (off kitchen floor tiles) but I was expecting that from any brand to be honest.
Interestingly, the reviews on their website are almost all 1 star, which surprised me considering some of the reviews for World's Best mention similar issues.
I think I'd quite like a cat but last time I was around one for any length of time I had pretty bad allergic reactions. Are there cats you can get that are non-allergenic? (NOOB)
How expensive are cats to keep? Is it perfectly normal for people with 9-5s to keep cats?
How expensive are cats to keep? Is it perfectly normal for people with 9-5s to keep cats?
http://www.pawnation.com/2013/06/05/10-hypoallergenic-cat-breeds/1
Expensive? Yes. Be prepared to pay for lots of food, immunisations and neutering. Also you'll need pet insurance if you feel you cannot afford a sudden vet bill of £4000+ should they need an operation say.
Debatable on leaving them alone, it probably depends on the cat. I guess most would be ok though it is a good excuse to get two if you're leaving them alone
Expensive? Yes. Be prepared to pay for lots of food, immunisations and neutering. Also you'll need pet insurance if you feel you cannot afford a sudden vet bill of £4000+ should they need an operation say.
Debatable on leaving them alone, it probably depends on the cat. I guess most would be ok though it is a good excuse to get two if you're leaving them alone
Sent off a polite but formal email to Cats Protection about why they don't allow indoor-only adoption. Would really like to hear their reply so was as nice as pie
I noticed in some of their official literature that they won't even allow a cat who was indoor-only before being taken in by the shelter to be re-homed as indoor only. They really do seem to genuinely believe that a cat must hunt live prey to be happy.
Which is funny as a number of cat fancy organisations, vets and breeders will be happy to disagree. But they are very insistent about it. Have spoken to a couple of people from CP and if you mention indoor only cats they seem to hold you in the same regard as ... oh I don't know, Hitler?
I noticed in some of their official literature that they won't even allow a cat who was indoor-only before being taken in by the shelter to be re-homed as indoor only. They really do seem to genuinely believe that a cat must hunt live prey to be happy.
Which is funny as a number of cat fancy organisations, vets and breeders will be happy to disagree. But they are very insistent about it. Have spoken to a couple of people from CP and if you mention indoor only cats they seem to hold you in the same regard as ... oh I don't know, Hitler?
Hilter was notorious for his love of indoor cats 
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I must admit I don't understand their issue some cats just don't do the outdoors. My tabby would happily stay inside asleep all day. Open the door for her and I just get a look that says "wtf is that? just feed me!".
.I must admit I don't understand their issue some cats just don't do the outdoors. My tabby would happily stay inside asleep all day. Open the door for her and I just get a look that says "wtf is that? just feed me!".
Hilter was notorious for his love of indoor cats
I must admit I don't understand their issue some cats just don't do the outdoors. My tabby would happily stay inside asleep all day. Open the door for her and I just get a look that says "wtf is that? just feed me!".
It's weird tho. The popular argument stems around the idea that the cat's hunting instinct should be expressed, because it's "natural".
Neutering cats is not natural. It's still a very good idea.
Town/city cat density is anything but natural.
Mixing cats and dogs together is not natural.
Mixing cats and humans is not natural!
Cars and roads are not natural.
The stuff many people feed their cats is not natural ... it's 50% grain!
It's totally selective reasoning. And yet people are totally blind to this, insisting that it's kinder to let your cats be killed on a road than it is to protect and cherish them.
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Do you leave your house despite the tens of thousands of human who get killed on the roads every year?
Would you rather have a good life where you can go out and enjoy your natural instincts but with the small chance you may one day get run over, or be a prisoner and only see the same few square foot on area for your entire life?
I've had 8 cats over the past 20 odd years and I've not had a single one run over (hopefully not jinxed that now). However we did lose one after he got inside our reclining armchair and my mother crushed him by mistake when she got up. The home is certainly not danger free for cats.
1. I'm not a cat. I understand that if I stay on the pavement that scary thing with the bright lights is not going to eat me. I understand the world around me and the dangers it presents accurately. No animal can understand the world we have created.
2. I value the genuine wildlife. The birds. Pets are not genuine wildlife. They are pets. The damage cats do to genuine wildlife is known to be extremely high. As a cat admirer I'm not blind to that, and want to reduce/nullify the impact of my pets on the genuine wildlife.
3. Everybody I know round here has lost a cat to the roads near us. There are lots of them and they are used continually by traffic. The odds are good my cat would be hit.
4. Pedigree cats have lost a lot of their hunting instinct already, and we are continually breeding more and more docile breeds. See Australian Mist, Ragdoll, etc. We are breeding cats without the killer instinct because it is not necessary for them to hunt their own food.
Hunting and territorial behaviours in cats are now redundant, because they are pets.
I don't agree with housing normal cats in an indoor only home. I've got two one stays indoors unless forced out and the second only comes in when captured. Weird maybe but I don't like leaving him out at night. He's been attacked with a pellet gun twice both at night so as far as I'm concerned he stays indoors at night now. Even if he doesn't seem to care my bank balance and feelings do haha.
I don't know how easy it would be to distinguish between indoor/outdoor living cats though so that could explain the refusal. Maybe the majority of people who want an indoor cat wouldn't have suitable homes for an outdoor cat?
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I don't know how easy it would be to distinguish between indoor/outdoor living cats though so that could explain the refusal. Maybe the majority of people who want an indoor cat wouldn't have suitable homes for an outdoor cat?
.I don't agree with housing normal cats in an indoor only home. I've got two one stays indoors unless forced out and the second only comes in when captured. Weird maybe but I don't like leaving him out at night. He's been attacked with a pellet gun twice both at night so as far as I'm concerned he stays indoors at night now. Even if he doesn't seem to care my bank balance and feelings do haha.
I don't know how easy it would be to distinguish between indoor/outdoor living cats though so that could explain the refusal. Maybe the majority of people who want an indoor cat wouldn't have suitable homes for an outdoor cat?
What's a normal cat, btw? An adult cat who has lived an outdoor life before being rescued? An ex-feral? Sure I can understand in that case.
But CP won't even re-home a known indoor cat with an indoor home - it's in their brochures that all cats of all breeds must live outdoors. There are no exceptions for them.
I'll probably end up buying a kitten, in which case it will be indoors from day 0, and won't pine for the outdoor life.
Sorry I should have used "outdoor" rather than "normal". There's something wrong with cps reasoning there but you'll never get an answer from them.
That's the thing though if you get a kitten and keep it indoors I think it's cruel. Get a kitten and allow it its own choice and it chooses to stay indoors fine, don't decide for it.
And just to answer the normal question from my experience a normal cat is one that's asleep.
That's the thing though if you get a kitten and keep it indoors I think it's cruel. Get a kitten and allow it its own choice and it chooses to stay indoors fine, don't decide for it.
And just to answer the normal question from my experience a normal cat is one that's asleep
.Yep we agreed that if ours pined to go outside we would consider letting them. They have showed no interest yet, so they don't really know any wiser really. The way I feel is that I wouldn't throw my toddler out the door to go play in the street. I can't think of any other instance where a pet would be let loose to do as it pleases. Why are cats an exception?
I don't disagree with people doing it, I just believe it's your own personal choice and don't let anyone else tell you otherwise.
I don't disagree with people doing it, I just believe it's your own personal choice and don't let anyone else tell you otherwise.
The thing is, I'm buying a cat, not sponsoring one. The cat will be my pet. I will choose for the cat what it will eat, where it will live, etc.
I'm not buying the cat to give a needy cat a home (that would be a bonus if it happened). I'm buying the cat so I can have a pet cat. I'm going to be 100% honest and say I'm buying the cat because I like cats and want to own one.
I'm not buying a cat so it can go outside and spend its time in someone else's house because it might prefer to live with them. I'm buying a cat to live with me.
Now people may find this cold or even cruel. But I'm sorry, I fully intend to treat my pet cat the way I'd treat a pet dog, or any pet. As much as I will tend to its needs, I am buying it for me. For my benefit.
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Will you dress it up nicely?
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For Mag's eyes only.
No, you've got that backwards. The dressing up part is for me. Kitty already looks gorgeous, with plush fur + real working tail!
P.S. MisChief thinks I'm into bestiality thanks to you
Well, maybe thanks to me too. Personally I have no idea why people take anything I say seriously, but it happens...
P.P.S. It's not true!
P.S. MisChief thinks I'm into bestiality thanks to you
Well, maybe thanks to me too. Personally I have no idea why people take anything I say seriously, but it happens...P.P.S. It's not true!
What you say is right but for some reason I'm not sure it creeps me out
. Does that mean you wouldn't take a dog out for a walk?Heck at least it sounds like you will look after it even if you're imprisoning it
(don't hate me 
).Any ideas on breed yet?
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What you say is right but for some reason I'm not sure it creeps me out
Heck at least it sounds like you will look after it even if you're imprisoning it
Any ideas on breed yet?
I'm visiting someone this weekend who has a lot of cats (20+) and thinks one of them might be better off with me. If that doesn't work out, and given that Cat's Protection won't let me adopt, then I'll be back to square 1, looking for a Burmese/Tonkinese kitten from a breeder.
Which was my original preference, before everyone in my family insisted I try to adopt one
But they all think pedigree cats are a silly idea, and I disagree