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Regy53 said:
So many replys thanks for the nice comments.

With reference to pricing, they are a mid 50's in the uk plus all the bits done suits me i never paid website price. The import fees i think add up, shipping, import duty is 10% i think then VAT if your VAT registered ( i am) the F150 is a mid 50's truck over here.
The thing about the american trucks @Conscript is the almost the luxury they offer given there commercial rating. I am a petrol head so like the best of what i can get and the ford rangers do not cut it for me they have no spec and are small, its silly to run a range rover through the business. These offer neigh on range rover luxury with half the cost and even less when your a business. The size can be a issue but its not that bad i already never park in normal bays with any vehicle i own (even my mrs smax) i always find the ends or corners etc.


Fords effort of a pickup to compete is the ford msport thing and if you see one there just stupid.

Do remember i have saved 20% on the price from corporation tax alone.


edit just found this not sure how correct

+10% duty on the purchase price (what the invoice says) + shipping cost
+20% VAT on the duty and shipping
allow up to another £500 - £1k for you to do the IVA and get registered taxed etc, maybe more if you get someone to do the work for you.

Or generally allow 36% on top of your US purchase price
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Fair enough if they are very luxurious. Although we obviously differ on the definition of "small" - my neighbour ran a Ford Ranger for a few years and it definitely wasn't "small" :p

Mind you, he also wasn't that impressed with it; it had a manual gearbox but he said it was very clunky and unrefined. The thing is, I considered pickup trucks a few years ago when my girlfriend was after a car that could tow a horsebox, and I ended up ruling them out because I figured that whilst they might be great the 10% of the time you were towing, the other 90% of the time when she just needed a "car", they would be cumbersome in the UK...so to me, American pickups just seem too much of a compromise. Whatever blows your skirt up though.
 
geekman said:
I don't think it's so much the fact that they're more accomplished, it's more that they're a very different driving experience to something like a Range Rover. I've driven a few, and whilst dynamically they're significantly worse than pretty much anything else I've driven, they're also a hell of a lot of fun. The other factor is that you can put stuff in the back and not worry about messing up the interior: I had a pile of earth I needed to move recently which I'd never have put in a Range Rover as it would have gone everywhere and ruined the interior, instead I just chucked it into the back of a Ram and scraped it out with a spade when I got to my destination.

Lots of people where I live put bikes / quads and even small plant machinery in the back of them, another thing you can't do with a normal SUV.
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Yes, but you can do all that with "normal" pickup, too, that was my point. I get that American trucks offer the practicality of a pickup without the commercial grade interior, but having to worry about negotiating tight UK high streets, tiny parking spaces and squeezing down country lanes seem to nullify the advantages in my eyes. As Regy says though, that doesn't bother him and he can get the best of both worlds.
 
Fox on form today!

50K luxury Truck = Transit tipper. Yep, OK sure.

Shock as imported vehicles cost more than they do in their native country. Definitely hasn't been the case literally forever.

Mrk's mint 100K mile+ interior which is undeniably one of the cleanest 100K mile interiors I or most people on here will have ever seen = Exactly the same as Fox's unrestored E39 interior when he bought it on 140K miles. Yep, OK sure.

Hi Fox!

:p
 
Joe T said:
One of the major importers has a stock list of mostly new NA vehicles here: http://51stateautos.com/stock/

In fact, you might recognise one of the trucks on there.
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So looks like they’re charging around £4k over (Canadian) MSRP, not awful considering the cost of import. Depends how much under MSRP they got it for though.

@InvaderGIR $54k+ tax + upgrades (probably around $2-3k)

[TW]Fox said:
Those guys must be laughing all the way to the bank at how much money us Brits will pay for essentially their equivalent of a Transit tipper.

Those things cost less brand new than they sell for second hand here?!
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Says someone that’s obviously never been in or driven one? :p

Base models could be considered the equivalent, but the higher spec ones are bought instead of Range Rovers and X5s.

On a saimilar note I never understand why people spend so much on an Audi RS, when they’re basically a Skoda...;)
 
Conscript said:
Yes, but you can do all that with "normal" pickup, too, that was my point. I get that American trucks offer the practicality of a pickup without the commercial grade interior, but having to worry about negotiating tight UK high streets, tiny parking spaces and squeezing down country lanes seem to nullify the advantages in my eyes. As Regy says though, that doesn't bother him and he can get the best of both worlds.
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Having driven both types (North America and rest of the world) for a fairly large chunk of miles there really is no comparison.

One’s a slow, noisy hard riding wipe down interior vehicle, the other will smoke most saloons at the lights*, feels like a car to drive (except size) and is just plain better in almost every way, except possibly off road (again largely due to size).

Uk pickups are not far off the example Fox gave earlier (transits, although they are getting better as they start becoming more mainstream, not just commercial vehicles) North American pickups just aren’t in any way.

As an example compared to our VW Jetta (Bora) we both prefer to drive it. It’s faster, more responsive, smoother, quieter, and just a much nicer place to be, especially for long journeys. Compared to a higher end BMW it’s probably not quite as refined, but then it’s still designed to have a ton of material in the back, or around here a couple of snowmobiles/ATVs/dirt bikes for the weekend fun.

Having one in the UK? Bit mental due to size, but if you want something luxurious that’s still practical then there’s not really many other options. :p

*they use lightly modified versions of these engines and transmissions in the Mustang, to give you an idea of what they’re capable of.
 
Apart from the size there is not much to dislike those looking at the price this is not your typical pickup its a 100k r
geekman said:
Lots of people where I live put bikes / quads and even small plant machinery in the back of them, another thing you can't do with a normal SUV.
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Interestingly enough i own a used plant sales business and we are also dealers for Quadzilla CF moto quad bikes.

Anybody commenting the thing to remember is the commercial side of this, I am a american pickup fan and my business allows me to enjoy things i like without big implications. I dont pay VAT, It saves me 20% on my tax bill and i can claim every expense including fitting a LPG kit or modifications

Its a commercial vehicle the only other vehicle that compares is a uk spec pickup truck with nearly zero the spec they are neigh on 30k +VAT infact the MSport Ranger is 36k +VAT

And if you look at them you will see

You can get this for 44k +VAT

media-1-2 (1) by Ross c, on Flickr

or this for 36k VAT without many things the above has


cc45fe75-50ee-41af-9cc9-1b678e2dc758 by Ross c, on Flickr
ford-ranger-m-sport-ms-rt-3-2-manual--price-freeze-save--1000-while-stocks-last--sat-nav-reversing-camera-230v-power-con-269584497-2 by Ross c, on Flickr

Thing is if you see them these are also now fairly big for a uk spec pickup but the inside is not nice, the seats are not nice and neither is the outside.

From a commercial vehicle standpoint if you can deal with the size the F150/ american pickup scene is great value.

Incidentally I love the looks and i doubt theres another one that looks the same in the UK, there are 500 range rovers similar to mine
 
Amp34 said:
Nice truck Regy. How much extra does a Platinum set you back in the UK if you don't mind me asking? I'm guessing import costs and "exclusivity" costs add a lot!

For the bounciness a couple of options, stick a couple of large paving slabs in the bed over the rear axle (what a lot of people do, especially in winter to add more traction, they are after all designed to have weight in the back) or get a set of aftermarket shocks, which is pretty much a standard aftermarket mod. They're pretty cheap, a set will cost a couple of $100, no idea how much in the UK. Fox and Bilstein are good options.

I have the 5.0 but was actually looking for the 3.5, a "better" engine in many ways if you can get over it not being a V8.



F250s are usually owned by farmers, construction workers and fleets, not really stealing material. :p
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Thanks Fella, these things are around 55k +VAT new without any of the mods which i reckon is around 8ks worth.

Thanks for the tips i might try the slabs just to help the bounce, will look into the spings, its been leveled out with spacers? so the front and rear are the same height not sure if that makes a difference.

I am a V8 man for sure but theres no v8's over here unless your getting a RAM and even though i could have got a longhorn for less (new 2017 model) i just didn't like them i am a ford man it seems.

I would have now owned

1991 Chevrolet cheyenne v8 nasp diesel
2010 Ford F250 6.4 diesel v8
1993 Chevrolet Silverado v8 petrol
2001 ford f350 7.3 turbo diesel
and now this

I do love my american trucks however the one i miss the most is the 1991 chevrolet cheyenne it was slow as hell but was just awsome old school fun
 
Acme said:
Mrk's mint 100K mile+ interior which is undeniably one of the cleanest 100K mile interiors I or most people on here will have ever seen = Exactly the same as Fox's unrestored E39 interior when he bought it on 140K miles. Yep, OK sure.
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Yup. It was absolutely pristine.
 
Regy53 said:
Thanks Fella, these things are around 55k +VAT new without any of the mods which i reckon is around 8ks worth.

Thanks for the tips i might try the slabs just to help the bounce, will look into the spings, its been leveled out with spacers? so the front and rear are the same height not sure if that makes a difference.

I am a V8 man for sure but theres no v8's over here unless your getting a RAM and even though i could have got a longhorn for less (new 2017 model) i just didn't like them i am a ford man it seems.

I would have now owned

1991 Chevrolet cheyenne v8 nasp diesel
2010 Ford F250 6.4 diesel v8
1993 Chevrolet Silverado v8 petrol
2001 ford f350 7.3 turbo diesel
and now this

I do love my american trucks however the one i miss the most is the 1991 chevrolet cheyenne it was slow as hell but was just awsome old school fun
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If it’s just been levelled then it should mean the rear hasn’t been touched, in which case swapping out the shocks for aftermarket ones should be a half hour or so job if you can find the right shocks.

If it’s been lifted in any way then it all depends on how they did it and what they used.

Assuming you already know but I’d recommend signing up to https://www.f150online.com/forums/ for everything you want to (and don’t want to) know about them.
 
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