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Kenai said:
£10,00-£15,000 is a lot to pay just so that someone else hasn't sat in it before, especially for someone complaining they had to get a small engine because the insurance was too much on a bigger engine :confused:
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It's not that I can't afford it, I just didn't want to spend more money on something like insurance that I invariably won't see again - it's not cheap for young drivers remember.

And let's be honest, as much as this isn't a "new-car" friendly forum, we all know there's more to it than just the fact that "someone hasn't sat in it before".

Differing priorities, views and opinions is all that's going on here. ;)

mjt said:
Hmm. My father didn't opt for satnav on his Golf, but you get so much with the touch-screen RCD 510 that you're literally only missing satnav. That, and you can retro-fit RNS 510 very easily.
You get so, so much more with 'nav' option on a BMW than satnav. That, and retrofitting iDrive would be a first ;)
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Yes, my father's old 6 series had it without Sat-nav as well, and I understand what you're saying. I won't be missing it.


Howard said:
I disagree, I hate the wheels and the colour of the car. But then it's not my car so it's irrelevant :)
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It looks fantastic ;)
 
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Lonz said:
It's not that I can't afford it, I just didn't want to spend more money on something like insurance that I invariably won't see again - it's not cheap for young drivers remember.
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You won't see all the money it'll lose in depreciation either and this will far outweigh the insurance.

My 335i for example was immaculate, had full navigation, 306bhp and was only 2 years old with full BMW warranty for 2 years from a BMW dealer.

It cost almost £10,000 less than your 320d.

This is the point people are making. To spend such a lot of money on a bottom of the range model without the impressive technical options just seems completely bizarre. We can't relate to it. You could have had so much more 3 Series Coupe for the same or less money, infact.


Yes, my father's old 6 series had it without Sat-nav as well, and I understand what you're saying. I won't be missing it.
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The fact you keep referring to it just as sat nav makes me think your research was very poor. It isn't just satnav - it's the entire control centre and audio/entertainment system for the car. Your Dads 6 Series with no Nav will still have had iDrive with the screen. Your 3 Series doesn't.
 
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Lonz said:
It's not that I can't afford it, I just didn't want to spend more money on something like insurance that I invariably won't see again - it's not cheap for young drivers remember.
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I'm well aware how much insurance is, i'm pretty much the same age as you.

Baffled by the notion that insurance is money you won't see again but the huge depreciation suffered just to have a new car somehow is, especially given that money on insurance would have the tangible benefit of netting you a better car.
 
[TW]Fox;20611605 said:
You won't see all the money it'll lose in depreciation either and this will far outweigh the insurance.

My 335i for example was immaculate, had full navigation, 306bhp and was only 2 years old with full BMW warranty for 2 years from a BMW dealer.

It cost almost £10,000 less than your 320d.

This is the point people are making. To spend such a lot of money on a bottom of the range model without the impressive technical options just seems completely bizarre. We can't relate to it.




The fact you keep referring to it just as sat nav makes me think your research was very poor. It isn't just satnav - it's the entire control centre and audio/entertainment system for the car. Your Dads 6 Series with no Nav will still have had iDrive with the screen. Your 3 Series doesn't.
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Congratulations. "Buyer in second-hand car savings shock!"

As for the i-Drive, it seems that your reading is very poor. It's pretty clear what I'm talking about.

It's all boiling down to what my priorities were when I purchased. For one reason or another I wanted to buy myself a new car. I set myself a budget and stuck to it.

To make my viewpoint even clearer; paying extra for the car being new is one thing. Paying more money for insurance because I'm younger is another.
 
It's a fantastic looking 3 series, but I'm in the same boat as the others I'm afraid. Whilst I'm not impartial to purchasing a brand new car I definitely would ensure it would have the desirable options for resale, specifically the iDrive nav/entertainment system that Fox has explained. I've only been in a BMW a few times but the system as a whole is fantastic, and if I was looking for a second hand E92 2.0 diesel 3 series then I would definitely have nav as one of the must-have options.
I can't help but think it will affect your resale, but if it's what you want and makes you happy then that's fair enough.

EDIT - Lonz what are you talking about then? Without delving into an internetz argument there just seems to be very little/no logic with getting a new car and not paying a little extra for iDrive system.
 
Lonz said:
Congratulations. "Buyer in second-hand car savings shock!"
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It's not just the savings - its about being able to get a better car.

Spending £30,000 on a car at 23 is a huge commitment. It's certainly one to be admired if you've got the ability to do that. It also stands to reason that if you can justify the sort of money most 23 year olds would kill for to use as a house deposit on a car, then you are obviously really into your cars. Again, great. Cars are awesome.

But if you have... £30k. And you are... really into cars.

Why would you go for a 2 litre diesel in a car which houses some of the most fantastic 6 cylinder engines BMW have ever made, citing insurance reasons? I dont get it.

If you are going to spend £30k+ on a 3 Series at least do it properly.
 
[TW]Fox;20611705 said:
It's not just the savings - its about being able to get a better car.

Spending £30,000 on a car at 23 is a huge commitment. It's certainly one to be admired if you've got the ability to do that. It also stands to reason that if you can justify the sort of money most 23 year olds would kill for to use as a house deposit on a car, then you are obviously really into your cars. Again, great. Cars are awesome.

But if you have... £30k. And you are... really into cars.

Why would you go for a 2 litre diesel in a car which houses some of the most fantastic 6 cylinder engines BMW have ever made, citing insurance reasons? I dont get it.

If you are going to spend £30k+ on a 3 Series at least do it properly.
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You're missing out the words "brand-new". Again. I'm clearly at a loss trying to explain my reasons to you whilst fully understanding the points you're making, but you're just going through the motions of what you'd do about buying a car. We've clearly got different thought processes as I said earlier.
 
Can I just jump in and say how awesome Tom's 335D is. Been in it over this weekend and I think it's absolutely fantastic. The iDrive is definitely a must have feature although I was chuckling at how hard it is to change the radio stations although that could be his accent :p
 
Kenai said:
What is it about being brand that makes it worth spending an extra £10,000 or more? It's something I really genuinely don't get.
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Well, 20% of that is VAT so there goes £6k.

That aside.....I understand the lure of having a new car but what i don't understand is....

Loves cars : But went for a diesel? Do you do enough miles to warrant a Diesel?
Don't want to be raped by insurance because it is expensive : But has £30,000 in cash? You either have money or you don't.
iDrive for a tiny % more of the total and didn't go for it?

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