Silverstone Sugo SG05

Hesky82 · 19 Jul 2009 at 22:09

The stock E5200 cooler is incredibly small though, nothing to it!

betaspin · 23 Jul 2009 at 00:10

Hesky82 said:
I think it fits the Zotac board but I would imagine it overhangs the mb to much to fit in the SG05 case, this is only an assumption and I wouldn’t mind it compatibility with the SG05/06 confirming

More details of the way in which the Big Shuriken fits in the SG05 (and, by inference, the SG06) at http://www.hardwareluxx.de/community/showpost.php?p=12502651&postcount=593. Apparently, it fits inside the box, but makes contact with the side wall. Workable, but far from ideal.

Also, according to Scythe, in order to fit the Big Shuriken on the Zotac 9300 ITX with the stock push pins, one needs to remove the MCP heatsink first and then put it on again...

Hesky82 · 23 Jul 2009 at 00:49

yeah it doesnt sound ideal, I'd rather not have to remove the MCP heat-sink just to fit the cooler. I guess you could purchase the CPU Cooler Stabilizer which may make it easier to fit with the MCP cooler in situ, but that adds another £10 onto an already quite expensive cooler.

I need to sort out a cooler that is compatible with the SG06 case and the Zotac 9300 board.
I'm using a retail Intel quad cooler and its struggling to keep my overclocked e5200 cool under heavy sustained load, really need something significantly better.

[RB] · 30 Aug 2009 at 13:51

Does anyone know if it's possible to fit a geforce 260 in the SG05?

I seem to remember reading that it's possible with a bit of cutting at the front but my Google skills seem to be failing me at the moment!

Tute · 30 Aug 2009 at 16:00

It'll push the PSU to it's absolute limits.

SBD · 30 Aug 2009 at 18:02

Can you fit a different PSU into the SG05 such as the Corsair VX 450W?

Tute · 30 Aug 2009 at 19:19

No, you're pretty much confined to the stock one.

Hesky82 · 30 Aug 2009 at 20:40

There's a Seasonic 350w SFX power supply that will fit this case, anything more powerful would be pretty pointless in this little case anyway.

martynrbooth · 1 Sep 2009 at 22:33

hi
ive just built a mini itx system specs below and i need a bit of advice

i bought a zotac 250 gts 1gb to go in the build but when i got the card it was over 10" long (would not fit in the case)it also needs a 8 pin and a six pin power connector.
Can any one tell me which 250 gts cards will fit in the SG05 case and were do i get the 8 pin connector, i have the 6 pin plug spare straight off the power supply and theres a two 4 pin molex to 8 pin pci express adapter that comes with the card. but the only two molex i have left is on the same rail is that ok?

Silverstone SGO5 mini itx case
zotac 9300 wifi itx mother board
intel dual core e8400 @ 3.00 ghz (wolfdale)
OcUK 4GB (2x2GB) PC2-6400C5 800MHz DDR2 Dual Channel
Sony Optiarc AD-7593S DVD±RW SATA Notebook Rewriter Drive

any help would be apprieciated thanks for your time

Hesky82 · 1 Sep 2009 at 23:42

I've just measured a Gigabytes GTS 250 card and the PCB is a smidgen over 8" long, it also only uses a 6 pin connector.
Possibly a better option?

PermaBanned · 1 Sep 2009 at 23:51

Yeah, that motherboard is bent:

Hesky82 · 2 Sep 2009 at 00:05

It will straighten out once fitted in the case, even with a standard push pin Intel cooler the board will bow slightly. I've seen Intels DG45FC board do exactly the same.
Not ideal but that sort of flex is just about acceptable.

betaspin · 2 Sep 2009 at 08:51

martynrbooth said:
Can any one tell me which 250 gts cards will fit in the SG05 case and were do i get the 8 pin connector, i have the 6 pin plug spare straight off the power supply and theres a two 4 pin molex to 8 pin pci express adapter that comes with the card. but the only two molex i have left is on the same rail is that ok?

The EVGA GTS 250 fits the SG05 perfectly, I have one in mine (with the Zotac 9300 ITX). It is essential to use a GTS 250 with a cooler that exhausts the hot air through the back of the case (as the EVGA) because the airflow in the SG05 with the card installed is not perfect and any other type of cooler would raise the MCP temperature considerably. The EVGA GTS 250 has a single 6 pin connector.

Guardsmon · 2 Sep 2009 at 11:14

Why would you use a GTS250 anyway? Its just a rebranded 8800GT with a few tweaks...again (9800). I'd probably look at a HD4870 or if thats too much a HD4850 instead

betaspin · 2 Sep 2009 at 11:48

The current GTS 250 is a tweaked 9800 GTX+ (which in turn was a tweaked 8800 GTS) shrunk to 55nm.

I am not sure that the stock 300W PSU is good enough for the HD4870. The GTS 250 and the HD4850 perform much the same, but the GTS 250 has Cuda which is an important advantage (the number of applications making use of Cuda will be increasing, as it is easily accessible from C, C++, and now even from Fortran).

In addition to this, the EVGA GTS 250 512MB I am using has increased the idle power consumption of the SG05 + 9300 ITX by just about 25W (40W to 65W). I doubt that even the HD4770 would have a lower idle consumption.

Guardsmon · 2 Sep 2009 at 11:56

fair enough, though CUDA still doesn't have enough apps around that use it to warrant it. I'd still go with the ATI option, but depends what you're using it for.

Its nice to think my 8800GTX is still on par with newer cards that ppl buy

(admittedly power consumption is a little more

)

Hesky82 · 2 Sep 2009 at 15:18

you know I think martynrbooth was real unlucky that he picked the only GTS 250 card the for some crazy reason uses the huge reference cooler used on the GTX 285 etc..

I mean they die shrink the GTS 250 to reduce power and heat and zotac in the end decide to use a ridiculous size cooler and PCB. Is the card significantly overclocked? cant say Im to familiar with it.

[RB] · 2 Sep 2009 at 15:48

Hesky82 said:
you know I think martynrbooth was real unlucky that he picked the only GTS 250 card the for some crazy reason uses the huge reference cooler used on the GTX 285 etc..

I mean they die shrink the GTS 250 to reduce power and heat and zotac in the end decide to use a ridiculous size cooler and PCB. Is the card significantly overclocked? cant say Im to familiar with it.

I was thinking the same thing.

I've looked around and it does seem to be the only one of its kind!

betaspin · 2 Sep 2009 at 16:01

Hesky82 said:
I mean they die shrink the GTS 250 to reduce power and heat and zotac in the end decide to use a ridiculous size cooler and PCB. Is the card significantly overclocked? cant say Im to familiar with it.

Looking at the Zotac GTS 250 pictures I get the feeling that it might be using the 65nm G92 chips which were on the initial GTS 250s. This is also suggested by the 8 pin connector which implies higher wattage.

martynrbooth · 2 Sep 2009 at 17:14

Hesky82 said:
I've just measured a Gigabytes GTS 250 card and the PCB is a smidgen over 8" long, it also only uses a 6 pin connector.
Possibly a better option?

is that a 512 version or 1gb?

thanks for all the replys, if a card is 1gb does that automatically mean it need two power connectors, iam thinking along the lines of the evga. kinda gutted ive just got 280 ssc gtx back from EVGA RMA (raplacing one that died with the rest of my old rig) and now i carnt use it