I must have imagined all those overtakes that Lewis made at the start of the season, or did he just rough house 32 drivers out of the way in the first few races of the year.
Singapore Grand Prix 2010, Marina Bay Street Circuit - Race 15/19
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I must have imagined all those overtakes that Lewis made at the start of the season, or did he just rough house 32 drivers out of the way in the first few races of the year.
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realisticly its almost over for hamilton now isnt it ? 
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Nah. 4 to go, including a circuit that's not even finished yet. Anything could happen...
Hopefully involving Fred and exploding engine.
Hopefully involving Fred and exploding engine.
realisticly its almost over for hamilton now isnt it ?
DEFINITELY NOT. He is in 3rd place.
Alonso and Webber will take points off of eachother and it is up to Hamilton to take advantage of any incidents which Alonso or Webber are involved in.
Another point is that even though Webber is in the best car, he is struggling to take full advantage of it. Vettel is actually taking points away from him.
I said after Silverstone that Alonso will be the top scorer in the 2nd half of the season. I still stand by this. The only question is, can Alonso score enough to secure the title.
A few races ago, I was questioning whether Alonso (who is widely regarded as the daddy of F1), deserves that tag. Today's performance was one of the best I've seen this season. The amount of concentration required to lead from the front, on a tricky track, in humid conditions, like we saw from Alonso is immense.
He got pole, the fastest lap and won the race, leading every lap. Right now, Alonso is in top form and performing as well as he ever has.
Before this season started my top 2 were Alonso and Hamilton (in that order). I actually think that this is possible.
Also, has nobody commented on MSc's poor performance? If it were anybody else, I think we would be wondering why he hasn't been replaced yet.
realisticly its almost over for hamilton now isnt it ?
With 4 races to go? 100 points for top spots left? A point scorer with 0 new engines left? A championship leader struggling to take top spot? Tracks with rain?
I think we're still on course for a very toight season end.
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realisticly its almost over for hamilton now isnt it ?
I don't think it is over for any of the top 5. Anything can and probably will happen. Remember that Alonso is on borrowed time with engines and we know the Bulls like to shoot themselves in the foot. Equally Hami likes to take himself out of the race - so who knows!!!
realisticly its almost over for hamilton now isnt it ?
Why do people keep saying this stuff, he's not even 1 win off the lead. In previous years when the points where 10-6 or 10-8 no one would consider it all over with 4 races to go if the driver was even 10 points behind.
Alonso has far less of a chance than Hamilton.
Anyone who gets pole has a good chance of that , in probably the best OVERALL car on the grid (as mentioned by Brundle several times)
Now if he had obviously been in a weaker car (like Button was two weeks ago) then yes concerntration needs to be a lot higher to stay there and to win (even with Ferrari team being the best pitstopers in the pitlane) - but the Ferrari is the equal of the RB as a whole package
Alonso did well - but it was nothing amazing - if anything its only because RB/Vettel HAVENT capitalised on all the poles and converting them to wins this season that Alonso's looks that much better, Im sure a few years ago you would rightfully expected Alonso to do exactly that, its really no different
Still think it was Lewis pushing a bad position, as the one overtaking its his responsibility to make sure he has enough track to CLEANLY overtake, so MW was driving defensively , so what is he MEANT to give LH the position!!! No not one bit
Lewis didnt NEED to win - even a fourth (with MW 3rd) wouldnt have been bad considering the relative performance of the McLaren against the RB yesterday. LH just needed to start scoring again after a (nother) stupid mistake last time out. Yet again he pushed it too far and he is the only driver paying for it (McLaren are, as they have lost 25 CC points over the last two races also)
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With regards to Ferrari being the best car - I strongly disagree on this. I think Brundle did mention that Vettel/RBR was potentially the fastest package this weekend...unfortunately for him, he failed to deliver in qualifying and for that reason also lost the race. When RBR asked Vettel to slow down and look after his brakes, Vettel stated that he was not pushing hard, but was still able to keep up with Alonso. For me, Vettel/RBR were the fastest package.
Apart from Alonso, how many drivers this year, have got pole, the fastest lap, lead every lap and won the race, in a car which was not the best of the field (assuming the above paragraph is true)? Answer: 0. This is the reason why Alonso's performance today was something we have not seen this year.
As I stated originaly- its only because RB have NOT capitalised that it seems special - before this year it would have been seemed as a lot more normal to do pole fastest lap & win the race
The level of concerntration required in previous years to this year really hasnt changed all that much - its just become a different challange.
You are welcome to your opinion, but to me Brundle was pretty accurate with his perception of the Ferrari car being the best overall (even if it isnt the fastest)
The ferrari is nothing like the best overall car this season. it's the third best car on the grid over the season. The mclaren has been far more consistent at a variety of track than the ferrari.
Alonso's performance yesterday was one of the best of the season. I have no doubt had Vettel beaten Alonso into the first corner that Veteel would have won by quite a margin.
Vettel himself said he wasn't pushing, he was managing the car in the hope of pushing nearer the stops. He was hoping he would wear out Alonso's tyres while being conservative on his own car.
Alonso is the master at controlling a gap and not taking too much out of his tyres.
Vettel should have had pole and won the race with ease, yet again he bottled it when it mattered.
Alonso's performance yesterday was one of the best of the season. I have no doubt had Vettel beaten Alonso into the first corner that Veteel would have won by quite a margin.
Vettel himself said he wasn't pushing, he was managing the car in the hope of pushing nearer the stops. He was hoping he would wear out Alonso's tyres while being conservative on his own car.
Alonso is the master at controlling a gap and not taking too much out of his tyres.
Vettel should have had pole and won the race with ease, yet again he bottled it when it mattered.
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Totally agree. I would rather the drivers have a go than play it safe all the time.
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because numbers aside
I think he's bottled it. Twin DNFs on the trot is going to knock his confidence.
Dont get me wrong, i'm no hamilton hater. I love having a british team with two british drivers right in the thick of it and would love either to win.
So long as its not that arrogant childish spaniard
I just worry about how he's going to come back from something like this. He needs consistency and patience to win this title, and if sunday is anything to go by, he's not prepared to do that.
He hasn't bottled it at all.
He has all to play for. He has a decent car under him. Alonso has an engine problem, while Webber is the No.2 driver at RBR, meaning that Vettel will be taking points away from Webber all the way.
Hamilton has a good chance of winning the title this year. If Webber has 1 bad race, suddenly, he will have slipped right down the WDC table.
My belief is that Vettel will finish ahead of Webber this season, in the WDC. It would be almost unthinkable for Webber to finish ahead of his team-leader, especially when RBR have given Vettel so much support this year.
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would be hilarious if he did.
If a britain cant win, An Aussie will have to do instead
If a britain cant win, An Aussie will have to do instead
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The corner where Hamilton got bumped has a rather wide run of area to the right of the tack but this is separated from the racing line by kerb. Am I correct in thinking the stewards consider it cheating to take the wider line rather than the planned route. I seem to remember Webber got penalised for doing this in the past before that huge kerb was installed.
I only mention it because if true Hamilton didn't really have quite the amount of width on the racing line as some are suggesting.
I only mention it because if true Hamilton didn't really have quite the amount of width on the racing line as some are suggesting.
I don't think he's bottled it at all, he's been unlucky. As Alonso was unlucky with the car ferrari gave him at the early part of the season. How people laughed when Alonso still said he could win it at silverstone. Unshakeable self belief. Hamilton doesn't have that, he has the talent but head goes down and looks for excuses too often, others to blame.
Hamilton I reckon will still take it, biggest problem might be a GP not happening so leaving us with 3 events left instead of 4. The mclaren is normally the 2nd fastest car if it's not the quickest and has taken advantage all season of Red Bull dropping the ball. As said Webber has the problem of Vettel taking points away from him, Jenson is not taking points away from hamilton.
I never stated over the season, I said now the Ferrari is overall the best car (which is just repeating what Brundle said over the last couple of race weekends), which I think it undoubtedly is.
Do you really trust the open communication that all the teams know could easily be picked up by TV? Maybe SV wasnt pushing, but what he said is no gaurentee that its the complete truth (after all the engineers will know one way or the other, SV doesnt need to tell them one way or the other)
Even saying that - the old adage is appropriate here "its a lot easier to chase than it is to lead the race" - just because he was supposedly taking it easy, it doesnt mean automatically he could have streaked away from Alonso (and even then he came close to hitting the wall a couple of times, so IF he had got ahead nothing to say he wouldnt have pushed too hard, wouldnt be the first time after all)
SV isnt anywhere as near mentally strong as Alonso, dont know he would have stayed the distance (at such a difficult track) without making some kind of mistake if he was being pushed from behind
Only because he keeps on failing to finish - JB would have taken points off LH if the latter had finished Monza
Also remember JB has never really liked Singapore as a track - yet he was pretty close to LH all weekend , Sazuka and Brazil are much more in JB's favour imo (in comparison to Singapore) , dont forget his incredible drive (after a bad quali) to seal the crown last season in Brazil
It could also be said that LH has to push that little bit more (because of the two dnf's) just to get a reasonable result - the last two will be preying on his mind for the next fortnight, JB will be a lot more relaxed just 5 points behind (not even going to think about what if regarding the idiotic German in Spa)
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