Sky Updated Epg

MagicBoy said:
Yep, would just put the price of the subscription up if they got booted off.

Sky F1 HD is an average 18mbit ... so that would be 36mbit on 1080p. :eek:
It eats enough of my disk space as it stands. I don't relish the idea of it eating 25% of my drive for a race recording...
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Why would you want sky to convert the interlaced signal? Any screen can only display a progressive image so your TV will do it.

If you have decent equipment connected to the end of the chain (and it has not been a signal that sky has had to scale as they are awful at this) this will do an admirable job of processing the interlaced signal ;)
 
So just to check about Eco mode... am I right in thinking that overnight it goes into deep sleep state (and any Sky+ remote recordings sent from website/iPhone won't get through), but in the morning it will wake itself up into the normal standby state where it can receive Sky+ remote recordings.
What are the times when it goes to deep sleep and then wakes up to normal standby? And will a recording sent when the box is in deep sleep be queued and then delivered when the box goes into normal standby, or does it get lost?
 
Westyfield2 said:
So just to check about Eco mode... am I right in thinking that overnight it goes into deep sleep state (and any Sky+ remote recordings sent from website/iPhone won't get through), but in the morning it will wake itself up into the normal standby state where it can receive Sky+ remote recordings.
What are the times when it goes to deep sleep and then wakes up to normal standby? And will a recording sent when the box is in deep sleep be queued and then delivered when the box goes into normal standby, or does it get lost?
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"Essentially the STB goes into 'deep sleep' some time after 1am and comes out of 'deep sleep' before 6am on most occasions.

If there are any planned recordings during this time, the STB will come out of 'deep sleep' and go into 'standby'. The recording will then take place and if it isn't too late, it may go into 'deep sleep' again.

The same is true if there is a planned overnight update for the firmware or if the STB is scheduled to record items for the Showcase section.

There is no published schedule for the Showcase recordings, so they can be aired anytime of the day or night. Public updates tend to occur between 1am or 4am. This has the least impact on Sky's customers."
 
Scubbie said:
We will forever disagree on this and I am not in a position where I can provide all the evidence to support my side. Simply put, it is a software change within the latest firmware update and not hardware.

As for HDMI being a set standard, sorry but you really haven't got all the facts there.

HDMI has had several revisions since it was first set. I believe that Sky's Sky+ HD STBs were first created before v1.3 was published (22nd June 2006). Source: Wikipedia.

Dolby TrueHD was a part of the 1.3 standard. 3D over HDMI is a 1.4 standard. This was published on 28th May 2009.

Remember that it takes time to design and build the STBs. As such, the components would have been sourced long before the respective Sky+ HD STBs were produced.
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You're missing my point. My point is that for years Sky have been saying they couldn't do 5.1 over HDMI due to a hardware issue. This is not true, as you've just said.

Scubbie said:
Maybe Freeview can broadcast 1080p video quality. So too can the Satellite broadcasters. Both Freesat and Sky use the same group of satellites, so whilst you may be watching BBC1 HD on Sky, your neighbour will be watching the same transmission of BBC1 HD on their Freesat HD STB.

However neither Freeview, Freesat or Sky currently have any of the channels working at 1080p.

Finally, did you know that during the Olympics that the BBC Olympic HD channels were broadcast using a higher quality image than normal for their transmissions? This caused no end of problems for the Humax Foxsat HD STBs. This was resolved with an emergency update during the first week of the Olympics.
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Freeview broadcasts 1080p right now at this very moment, albeit it 25 FPS. It dynamically changes between 1080i50 and 1080p25 depending on the type of content being broadcast, so interlaced for sport and progressive for drama, etc.
 
I haven't missed the point at all.

Someone has composed some suitable coding to allow Sky to transmit the 5.1 sound over the HDMI. Without this coding it was impossible. I rather suspect that Sky would have been quite correct in their previous statements regarding 5.1 sound over HDMI.

As time progressed and the programming knowledge became available, the last thing Sky wanted to do was to let the cat out of the bag about how they were going to do things. In November 2011 someone leaked a lot of the key information about Sky's plans which we have seen bear fruit over the past year.

As for Freeview transmitting at 1080p, I stand corrected. I was under the impression that it was only 1080i. However dropping to 25fps indicated that perhaps there is a bandwidth issue after all.

It is important to appreciate that rather than leave the Sky+ HD STBs untouched after release, Sky has continued to improve the features available.

The EPG design has changed. It caused a lot of friction with some people, but there are improvements for many others. The ability to download Anytime+ content from Sky's servers only when you are on Sky Broadband has been expanded to allow anyone from the UK and Ireland to download On Demand and CUTV content, no matter which ISP they are with.

There are other things being considered and the development of the EPG will continue. Hopefully 50-80% of the suggestions put forward by those in the beta groups will be included and carried forward for any future STB from Sky.
 
As tribz has re-quoted the answers to the first parts of your question I won't repeat them here.

However one part wasn't answered:

Westyfield2 said:
...And will a recording sent when the box is in deep sleep be queued and then delivered when the box goes into normal standby, or does it get lost?
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If you send a request to the STB for 'Remote Record' whilst it is in Deep Sleep, the STB will not receive the request. If the recording was for something before it wakes up, then the recording will therefore be missed.

However, the Remote Record requests are repeated until when the programme or film starts. So if you were to send a Remote Record request as say 3am to record something at 10am, then this event will be recorded (bar any clash).
 
msv10 said:
Why would you want sky to convert the interlaced signal? Any screen can only display a progressive image so your TV will do it.

If you have decent equipment connected to the end of the chain (and it has not been a signal that sky has had to scale as they are awful at this) this will do an admirable job of processing the interlaced signal ;)
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I never said anything of the sort.

F1 HD is broadcast in 1080i at an average 18mbit. I'm well aware of the capabilities of my Panny plasma and home cinema setup thanks.

Oh, and welcome to OcUK. ;)
 
The current update for the DRX890, DRX895 and DRX595 is not on the DR Stream yet. Once the update for the final batch has been rolled out, then you will be able to force the update.

I maintain a table over on SkyUser which shows which firmware is available for each STB:

http://www.skyuser.co.uk/forum/sky-hd-supertelly/51040-sky-hd-stb-firmware-versions.html

Please feel free to refer to this table to see what version is being rolled out and what version is available on the DR Stream.
 
Firestar_3x said:
Mine is 4f31 or a drx890, I'm stuck on 11p, that table states the DR stream is updating to 15p currently?
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That is completely correct.

The instructions for performing the update manually are in the same post, just under the table.

For information, there wasn't too many changes between 11P and 15P. A few issues were fixed for 12P and an attempt to rectify the 'Denon Issue' was made in 15P.

The 'Denon Issue' has now been fixed with the latest firmware, which many of those affected received as a beta during the test period. This is documented on the Sky forums.
 
dbmzk1 said:
Freeview broadcasts 1080p right now at this very moment, albeit it 25 FPS. It dynamically changes between 1080i50 and 1080p25 depending on the type of content being broadcast, so interlaced for sport and progressive for drama, etc.
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Wouldn't 25fps progressive and 50fps interlaced use the same bandwidth assuming equal compression? Sorry if that's a stupid question.

Be nice is Sky could also output whatever is required over the HDMI so the TV goes into 3D automagically as well
 
Scubbie said:
That is completely correct.

The instructions for performing the update manually are in the same post, just under the table.

For information, there wasn't too many changes between 11P and 15P. A few issues were fixed for 12P and an attempt to rectify the 'Denon Issue' was made in 15P.

The 'Denon Issue' has now been fixed with the latest firmware, which many of those affected received as a beta during the test period. This is documented on the Sky forums.
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Thanks, will wait for it to update, I can't seem to force it for some reason.
 
MagicBoy said:
I never said anything of the sort.

F1 HD is broadcast in 1080i at an average 18mbit. I'm well aware of the capabilities of my Panny plasma and home cinema setup thanks.

Oh, and welcome to OcUK. ;)
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As you say you understand, I guess I was surprised that you did not say there would be zero point in sky delivering 1080p picture wise as opposed to just mentioning it would fill your HDD.

No need to be so defensive over your knowledge of your Panny I never said anything to insinuate such Touché

Your welcome was immense :D
 
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