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G-MAN2004 said:
I've said it since I heard about smoking. It's horrible. Makes my eyes water badly ans half chokes me when someone is smoking near. No thanks.
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I swore I'd never do it, my dad smokes (I have always lived with my mum and rather hated my dad) and it was one of the (meny) things I hated about him.
even when I smoked I still hated it.

you will see when you're older dude, trust me on this, but you're not so I won't bother as I know I wouldn't have listened to ANYONE had someone told me at your age.
 
Let's hope that snus gets legalised then, and everyone's happy - smokers get their nicotine hit and non-smokers apparently ultra-sensitive nasal passages need not suffer the indignation of tobacco smoke. Go snus!

Won't happen though, despite the incoming public smoking ban. Just think of the tax hit if people stopped buying cigarettes.
 
Augmented said:
Let's hope that snus gets legalised then, and everyone's happy - smokers get their nicotine hit and non-smokers apparently ultra-sensitive nasal passages need not suffer the indignation of tobacco smoke. Go snus!
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Snus has the rather nifty side-effect of an increased risk of mouth cancer although I don't think it increases the risk of any other cancer much(if at all)but you are right it doesn't impact greatly on anyone else provided people dispose of the used snus' responsibly.

mightynimrod said:
Your 15 years old, have no grasp of the "adult" world and the associated problems that come with it.


Adult life can be a lot tougher than school life my friend.
Adults cope with things in different ways, if smoking is one of those ways then so be it.

You probably have'nt had a serious problem so wouldn't know if you'd start smoking or not.

before you say you wouldn't, i never used to smoke, hated it, but now i do smoke.
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That does come across as a shade condescending, I'm in the adult world(well sort of, I'm at uni for most of the year) and I've never felt any desire to smoke. Maybe I've been lucky and never had any major problems in my life but I don't recall school being that much easier than 'adult life', in fact the converse is probably true I had more of a hard time at school than I have since I left, I'm that bit more confident and less likely to allow anyone to interfere with my life or enjoyment.
 
Efour2 said:
Kill yourself if you dont like it.

Or spend your life campaining to someone that can actually do something about it. Crying on here seems to be the trend lately.

Ill blow smoke in your face if we ever meet :)

Anyway give it 20 years and it will be banned, in the mean time hold your breath.
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If anyone ever blew smoke in my face I would have to punch them in the face. I would prefer someone hit ME in the face than blow smoke in my face.

There is no excuse for smoking, and people trying to justify it IMO (yes, my opinion) is pathetic! I am 21, and can honestly say I have never smoked once, and I would rather be eaten alive than start it, now, or ever!
 
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The one thing we forget is the amount of tax on cigs probably pays for the NHS - and as they will probably ban treating smokers then they are paying for our health as well as damaging it!
 
I hate smoke and smoking, I dont hate the people who do it but I dont like it when they do it infront of me.

I hate going out and coming home from town smelling of smoke, my clothes stink the next day and I wonder what the hell its doing to my lungs.

About 3 years ago on New Years eve I spent all night in on pub and I was off sick for 3 weeks with a throat infection and the doctor said it was due to the smoke in the pub.

One thing I hate is when you see someone driving a car and they have the cig in between there hand :mad: trying to smoke it and drive.
 
Honestly, if smokers are the worst of your problems then count yourself lucky. This whole debate is a bit pathetic really, a tiny amount of smoke in your surroundings and you start whining.
And no, I'm not a smoker.
 
Clarkey said:
Honestly, if smokers are the worst of your problems then count yourself lucky. This whole debate is a bit pathetic really, a tiny amount of smoke in your surroundings and you start whining.
And no, I'm not a smoker.
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But cant I have a say about my feelings against smoke and smokers.

:confused:
 
I'm very much against the whole "Smoking is evil bad, grr, inconsiderate hitler people!" attitude (not a smoker myself, hate the smell etc etc), purely for the fact that I don't think we should stop people don't something simply because we don't like it (and before you say second hand smoke has negative health side effects, I haven't seen a study that proves it has significant health effects unless you're exposed to it almost constantly).

Lots of people do things I don't like, I mean hell, I don't like looking at obese people, but do I lobby for the banning of doughnuts or fast food joints (quite apart from the fact that I'm partial to these on occasion myself)?
No, because they're human beings, and even though I wouldn't do that to myself and have somewhat diminished respect for those that do, I'm not going to interfere with their lives.
 
You do realise that walking through London you will probably take in more harmfull fumes from Traffic and general pollution than the tiny bit of smoke from the guy who lights up near you!
 
I agree with the OP, can't stand smoking and I will never start :)


mightynimrod said:
You probably have'nt had a serious problem so wouldn't know if you'd start smoking or not.
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Ah, you read his auto biography then? Otherwise how would you know
 
Steedie said:
this threads been done time and time before, and as much as i agree with you mate (i've made a thread like this myself), smokers will try to justify it with some excuse :p which will just result in a thread full of flames
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Agreed, but at least the smokers will have something to light up with. :p

Smoking is a disgusting, unhealthy and anisocial habit and should be banned in public all together only allowing those that chose to participate to do so in their own homes. If they have children then they shouldn't even be allowed to do that.
 
As a smoker, but non-drinker, I find the smell of stale alcohol disgusting. I demand that drinking alcohol be banned, especially in enclosed spaces, such as pubs.

I don't like seeing people eating in public places, especially fat people eating chocolate bars, or tourists munching pasties, dropping crumbs which encourage the seagulls.

Mobile phone usage should be banned in public places. All that radiation must be bad for passers-by, as well as the noise pollution caused by people shouting.

Large pushchairs should be banned, as they force other pedestrians to walk in the road to avoid them, risking getting hit by buses. Maybe babies should be banned, then there would be no need for pushchairs.

Buses should be banned, because they belch diesel smoke straight at car users who are trying to overtake them.


There are loads of things that annoy other people.
LIVE AND LET LIVE.
 
Biohazard said:
:) I generally smoke out my ass
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Personally I've noticed you usually speak out of it...

Anyway,

I used to smoke a lot... now I only ever smoke when I'm in a pub and drinking... I can't wait until the smoking ban in bars. That's when I'm quitting for good. :)
 
my main reason for this thread was that i was out with about 8 people the other day when one decided to smoke, and proceeded to blow smoke over everyone, so i had to come home smelling of smoke and my girlfriend had a really bad cough. not only did the person smoke 1 it was about 10, this is unnecessary. it isnt cool and will kill you.

i understand all the smokers who say "you dont know what it is like", and yes i dont, and i never want to know. "peer pressure" is the biggest pile of poop i have ever heard, if you are "forced" into smoking by your peers, you either have no spine or are so anxious to be accepted that you'd happily kill yourself.

for the people who say "oh yes but people smoke as they are on the dole, or are having a bad time" oh yeah, and they are going to have a great time with lung cancer aren't they. also smoking is a very expensive habit and people who are on the dole would have much spare cash if they gave up smoking.

the main point really, is how unfair it is that people who are interested in their health and fitness have to breathe in carcenogenic fumes on a daily basis. i could punch some smokers some times (kudos to the guy who said he'd punch the poster who threatened to blow smoke in peoples' faces) i was standing at the station when someone came, stood beside me, and lit up.

so what if it is a drug, if it is a drug make it illegal. it isn't like alcohol whereby you dont harm others (obviously unless you get violent), smoking harms everyone who breathes it in, so should clearly be banned. hopefully if the government ever pulls its finger out this will happen. i know smoking is on the way out due to the health matters etc, but why do people start in the first place? you know it is bad, you know it will kill you, you know you will get addicted, so why even start?

alcohol and tabacco are bigger killers than A class drugs (from new scientist) but unlike alcohol tabacco kills non-users too.

daven
 
clockworks said:
As a smoker, but non-drinker, I find the smell of stale alcohol disgusting. I demand that drinking alcohol be banned, especially in enclosed spaces, such as pubs.

a pub is a place to sit and drink, i am a non-drinker too however that is what a pub was built for.

I don't like seeing people eating in public places, especially fat people eating chocolate bars, or tourists munching pasties, dropping crumbs which encourage the seagulls.

fat people shouldn't eat chocolate either but it doesn't harm others around them

Mobile phone usage should be banned in public places. All that radiation must be bad for passers-by, as well as the noise pollution caused by people shouting.

mobile phones actually emit very little radiation and not enough to harm even the user let alone people around them

Large pushchairs should be banned, as they force other pedestrians to walk in the road to avoid them, risking getting hit by buses. Maybe babies should be banned, then there would be no need for pushchairs.

other pedestrians can look into the road, assess the risk level and walk behind the pushchair if it is dangerous, you can't not breathe in someones smoke if they are around you for more than 20 seconds. also in this case it wouldn't be the buggy killing someone it would be the persons stupidity to walk infront of a bus.

Buses should be banned, because they belch diesel smoke straight at car users who are trying to overtake them.

buses shouldn't be banned but i agree they need to be run on clean fuel like they do in delhi,india. but banning them would just mean more cars and therefore more pollution.

There are loads of things that annoy other people.

yes things like people not thinking before they post.
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clockworks said:
As a smoker, but non-drinker, I find the smell of stale alcohol disgusting. I demand that drinking alcohol be banned, especially in enclosed spaces, such as pubs.

I don't like seeing people eating in public places, especially fat people eating chocolate bars, or tourists munching pasties, dropping crumbs which encourage the seagulls.

Mobile phone usage should be banned in public places. All that radiation must be bad for passers-by, as well as the noise pollution caused by people shouting.

Large pushchairs should be banned, as they force other pedestrians to walk in the road to avoid them, risking getting hit by buses. Maybe babies should be banned, then there would be no need for pushchairs.

Buses should be banned, because they belch diesel smoke straight at car users who are trying to overtake them. :D


There are loads of things that annoy other people.
LIVE AND LET LIVE.
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You have fallen back on the age old but flawed argument that a lot of smokers try to use in defence of their habit. All of the things mentioned, with the exception of buses, do not harm others passively. Fat people only harm themselves, alcohol (putting aside the social problems which are that and not health related) only harms those that drink, same for mobile phones.

Smoking has been proven to harm people passively and therefore is no longer acceptable in public. Buses are used by everyone abd so are cars so that is a mute point.

I do agree with your point on pushchairs and the hordes of underage breeding machines that seems to push around litters of illegitimate future dole scroungers.
 
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