Smokers

[headworx]

but if someone doesn't want to smoke but is forced to walk through clouds of cigarette smoke, is that "fair"?

no its not i agree but common sence from all sides is needed what the hell was wrong with smoking rooms, i will never know.

it keep the smokers off the streets and only smokers went into them,

No chance of passive smoking for non smokers cos if they go in to the smoking room they are retarded

but nannie nation said OOOOooooo i dont want no law suit from some numpty that dont understand the difference between a SMOKING room and a NON SMOKING room.

 

[nero120]

Who really cares though i sure as S dont if someone wants to smoke fair play to em, if someone dont, fair play to them too.

the sooner this Fin police state and nannies nation F's off the bettter

just some simple education for respecting other people is all thats needed then everyone can live in peace and harmony.

dont flame me its bad for the environment all that pollution!

We can all live in peace and harmony when smokers only smoke in a private establishment that allows it or in the privacy of their own home. Smoking in public is unjustifiable and the sooner smokers are cut off the sooner we can all get on with our lives.

 

[headworx]

DONT SMOKE MATE

 

[afraser2k]

Who really cares though i sure as S dont if someone wants to smoke fair play to em, if someone dont, fair play to them too.

the sooner this Fin police state and nannies nation F's off the bettter

just some simple education for respecting other people is all thats needed then everyone can live in peace and harmony.

dont flame me its bad for the environment all that pollution!

Well next year Engerland is going to be having a smoking ban like us, so they're going to have to care at some point in the future.

Our department got rid of it's smokers room and there is a no-smoking policy on campus when the ban came in here. A few people smoke at the main door to the building so I can see the head of department getting annoyed at that if there is a mess when important government officials come to visit to determine research budgets for next year.

It's been funny so far though watching the smokers at my local pubs huddling together at the main door freezing and getting soaked with rain, only to get worse once winter arrives.

 

[nero120]

no its not i agree but common sence from all sides is needed what the hell was wrong with smoking rooms, i will never know.

it keep the smokers off the streets and only smokers went into them,

No chance of passive smoking for non smokers cos if they go in to the smoking room they are retarded

but nannie nation said OOOOooooo i dont want no law suit from some numpty that dont understand the difference between a SMOKING room and a NON SMOKING room.

I'd agree there. Smoking rooms are better than just chucking them out on to the street. We have a smoking room here, and it means that you dont get too many scum smokers outside the doors. However, that doesnt stop them stinking to high heaven when they get back to their desk. How these people can put I with that I dont know, clearly they have no dignity.

 

[Treefrog]

Ok then let's have a discussion about smokers rights then, should a few non-smokers always be able to affect policies such as these.

Personally I think yes, as the few are actually the majority (or at least I would think so)

Such a discussion has to be more meaningful than two wolves and one sheep voting on what to have for dinner though.
Equal rights for smokers to smoke, and for non-smokers not to have to put up with the "fall-out" would be my suggestion; and then for companies, etc to find ways to implement this.

 

[cleanbluesky]

Smoking in public is unjustifiable and the sooner smokers are cut off the sooner we can all get on with our lives.

And how is it 'unjustifiable'? To whom does it need to be justified?

What exactly do you need to 'get on' with that smokers are stopping you from now?

 

[nero120]

Such a discussion has to be more meaningful than two wolves and one sheep voting on what to have for dinner though.
Equal rights for smokers to smoke, and for non-smokers not to have to put up with the "fall-out" would be my suggestion; and then for companies, etc to find ways to implement this.

Heres an idea. Smokers can smoke in their homes and private establishments that allow them. They are not allowed to smoke in ANY public place at all.

Problem solved.

 

[Meatball]

Well next year Engerland is going to be having a smoking ban like us, so you're going to have to care at some point in the future.

Our department got rid of it's smokers room and there is a no-smoking policy on campus when the ban came in here. A few people smoke at the main door to the building so I can see the head of department getting annoyed at that if there is a mess when important government officials come to visit to determine research budgets for next year.

It's been funny so far though watching the smokers at my locals huddling together at the main door freezing and getting soaked with rain, only to get worse once winter arrives.

I think smokers should have a smokers room, it keeps them away from non-smokers and lets them smoke in peace. I think a smoking room is better then them standing in front of the entrance where we're forced in inhale them ghastly fumes.

My mum works in our local hospital and is shocked by the ammount of nurses who smoke! They're thinking of doing exactly what your department has done, ban it. Nurses wont be able to smoke in and near a hospital and not be allowed to smoke anywhere in their uniform, which will be very hard to enforce.

 

[nero120]

And how is it 'unjustifiable'? To whom does it need to be justified?

To affect other people in such a direct way is unprecedented, not to mention the amount of litter they create. There is more fag buts on the street than any other kind of litter.

What exactly do you need to 'get on' with that smokers are stopping you from now?

That they show the faintest sign of regard for the environment and other people, and a little self control?

 

[Treefrog]

Heres an idea. Smokers can smoke in their homes and private establishments that allow them. They are not allowed to smoke in ANY public place at all.

Problem solved.

So no smoking in a park or on the street? Or do you just mean buildings to which the general public have access?

 

[headworx]

However, that doesnt stop them stinking to high heaven when they get back to their desk. How these people can put I with that I dont know, clearly they have no dignity.

But if they wanna stink thats there life IMO let them live it

 

[nero120]

So no smoking in a park or on the street? Or do you just mean buildings to which the general public have access?

No I mean in any public area: parks, streets, train stations, bus stops, etc. It is only by precendent that it is currently justified, not based on any sense of reason, logic or civil ideology.

 

[Meatball]

So no smoking in a park or on the street? Or do you just mean buildings to which the general public have access?

I don't mind smoke in open areas where the fumes don't linger. In a park is fine but I still hate it in the streets. I was walking back from a friends house yesterday and there were smokers infront of me and the smoke was blowing back on me

 

[nero120]

But if they wanna stink thats there life IMO let them live it

When they have to interact with others then it becomes something else. Why do you think that people keep themselves clean? What would their colleagues say if they stopped washing and came into work stinking of b.o. and faeces?

 

[headworx]

I don't mind smoke in open areas where the fumes don't linger. In a park is fine but I still hate it in the streets. I was walking back from a friends house yesterday and there were smokers infront of me and the smoke was blowing back on me

jog on past him problem solved
change side of road problem solved
get a car
hehehe

 

[Visage]

Such a discussion has to be more meaningful than two wolves and one sheep voting on what to have for dinner though.
Equal rights for smokers to smoke, and for non-smokers not to have to put up with the "fall-out" would be my suggestion; and then for companies, etc to find ways to implement this.

Anti-smoking legislation isnt generally about the persecution of smokers though - its generally about safeguarding the health of those who dont.

In effect, it says that you're welcome to smoke anywhere where your smoke will not affect non-smokers. Thats why smoking in oubs is to be banend - not to persecute smokers, but to protect those that have to breathe in the 2nd hand smoke - barstaff, for example.

 

[Meatball]

When they have to interact with others then it becomes something else. Why do you think that people keep themselves clean? What would their colleagues say if they stopped washing and came into work stinking of b.o. and faeces?

good point but smoking has become publicly accepted where smelling of b.o or faeces is less acceptable according to our society.

jog on past him problem solved
change side of road problem solved
get a car
hehehe

1) exactly what I done
2) Why should I have to?
2) I'm 16

 

[headworx]

When they have to interact with others then it becomes something else. Why do you think that people keep themselves clean? What would their colleagues say if they stopped washing and came into work stinking of b.o. and faeces?

YOU Fin STINK YOU Fin DIRTY GIT

but if they can handle that who cares theres more women/men for you to "pull" if all your colleages stink.

Bonus

 

[afraser2k]

I think smokers should have a smokers room, it keeps them away from non-smokers and lets them smoke in peace. I think a smoking room is better then them standing in front of the entrance where we're forced in inhale them ghastly fumes.

My mum works in our local hospital and is shocked by the ammount of nurses who smoke! They're thinking of doing exactly what your department has done, ban it. Nurses wont be able to smoke in and near a hospital and not be allowed to smoke anywhere in their uniform, which will be very hard to enforce.

Thing is with the smoking ban coming into place more and more places, especially the public sector, will enforce these bans to comply with government policy. With the NHS in particular many buildings will be under CCTV surveillance so it depends how far the managers want to enforce the policy how successful it is.

In my department we've seen a few people stop smoking because of the ban, so whether or not it's effective long-term we can only wait and see.