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Snow Sports 2016/17

Discussion in 'Sports Arena' started by richyfingers, Aug 22, 2016.

  1. Cyanide2600

    Associate

    Joined: Sep 27, 2016

    Posts: 8

    Just booked a last minute trip to Sauze D'Oulx ... had a year off last year to get married so can't wait to get back out again!
     
  2. Richdog

    Capodecina

    Joined: Sep 8, 2005

    Posts: 23,589

    Location: Utopia

    Off to Davos next weekend, the snow is apparently pretty good with more to arrive in the next few days!
     
  3. Furyus

    Hitman

    Joined: Sep 15, 2010

    Posts: 866

    Location: Weston-super-Mare

    I'm worried courchevel 1850 doesn't have to much either! But I'm off in march so hopping for so me big dumps!
     
  4. jpaul

    Soldato

    Joined: Mar 1, 2010

    Posts: 7,346

    Seeing the Serbia recommendations from mid_gen, should I be worried about quality of medical services there, if you needed them ?,
    obviously take insurance, but nonetheless.
    (worst I have ever done need a few stitches in Chamonix putting a crampon into a leg, but wipe-outs on skiing can sometimes be a roll of the dice, maybe should get a helmet - seems like an arms-race)

    How much additional time, with transfers does it take ? is it a night en-route flying from Paris or London say ?

    EDIT cancel my reservation - not too convinced by Kopaonik

     
    Last edited: Feb 4, 2017
  5. Amp34

    Caporegime

    Joined: Jul 25, 2005

    Posts: 28,594

    Location: Canada

    Interesting you don't wear a helmet. Out of interest what is the proportion of people you see wearing helmets in Europe now, it was fairly high even two years ago. Here probably 99% of people wear a helmet, there really are very few people that don't (usually the early 20's males, and even in that category most do).

    Just finished a tiring weekend. Lots of first and last tracks. It's great skiing down a completely empty run, with not a single track on it. Shame about all the people in the middle of the day. :p We had a fair amount of snow over the weekend as well so great conditions. Bit chilly (-16) but not too bad, the groomers this morning were sublime, and the off piste was pretty good as well, although still way too many rocks in some places, hidden by the fresh snow. :(
     
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  6. rogan

    Wise Guy

    Joined: Jul 15, 2011

    Posts: 1,528

    Location: London

    I went 6 years without skiing, where I never wore a helmet before hand, when only total beginners 'required by ski school' and worried kids + parents were wearing them. now it i'd say its 75%+ if not more in the french resorts.

    My first 2016 trip in january i actually had a few people ask me why on earth I wasn't wearing one and proceeded to wear one for my second trip.

    Didnt hate it anywhere near as much as i remember hating trying it when I first ski'd and bought myself a Salomon MTN Lab, its unbelievably light, dont even notice its there
     
  7. cheesyboy

    Capodecina

    Joined: Dec 7, 2012

    Posts: 11,239

    Location: Gloucestershire

    Off to Norway for my first ski holiday later this week. Pretty excited to be honest.

    Going with wife (her 2nd ski holiday) and our two kids (7 and 3.5) and 3 other families.
     
  8. peterattheboro

    Capodecina

    Joined: Sep 24, 2005

    Posts: 19,917

    Location: Middlesbrough

    Just finished my second day in VT and it's immense when you have your own gear.

    Praying for some sun tomorrow as it'd been foggy and snowing for the 2 days :(
     
  9. beh

    Wise Guy

    Joined: Oct 16, 2003

    Posts: 2,146

    Maybe not 99% but 90+ anecdotally the last few years. Oddly enough it's often instructors I see not wearing them. I guess what's the risk if you're skiing in control on piste? Colliding with someone else?

    Wearing one off piste would be sensible if it's a bit thin or if you're a bit of a racer perhaps and like to ski full pelt down things.

    I only wore one initially when I first had lessons because it was provided. Any convincing evidence to support their usage for the average skier?
     
  10. Jokester

    Don

    Joined: Aug 7, 2003

    Posts: 38,550

    Location: Aberdeenshire

    Natasha Richardson. Innocuous fall on the beginners slope killed her, could happen to anyone.
     
  11. Amp34

    Caporegime

    Joined: Jul 25, 2005

    Posts: 28,594

    Location: Canada

    It doesn't have to be rocks.

    I ended up falling over last season going down an unpisted area. It looked soft from above but turned out to be rock hard ice. I managed to bash my head on some of that and it was pretty sore. I don't like to think what would have happened if I didn't have a helmet on.

    That was off piste (between two runs) but there's plenty of rock hard stuff on piste as well, especially at the end of the day, and EVERYONE falls over at some point.
     
  12. Jokester

    Don

    Joined: Aug 7, 2003

    Posts: 38,550

    Location: Aberdeenshire

    I wouldn't go without a helmet now, not particularly because it protects my head from falls, but the protection it offers from the sun and cold, paired with compatible goggles and a buff they're great.
     
  13. beh

    Wise Guy

    Joined: Oct 16, 2003

    Posts: 2,146

    It's speculation whether a helmet would have saved her given that information is scarce. Anyway, anecdotes aren't sufficient.

    Certainly don't think it couldn't happen to me. Someone collided with me today even and my goggles and beanie were scattered.

    Aye Amp34, scariest run of the day always at the end, everyone is tired, focus is elsewhere, hitting the same bottlenecks en masse which are cut up and scraped.
     
  14. Jokester

    Don

    Joined: Aug 7, 2003

    Posts: 38,550

    Location: Aberdeenshire

    A helmet would have almost certainly have saved her life. The fall was serious enough for the ski patrol to assess her for a head injury but she refused further treatment which may have saved her life, but by that point the damage was already done.

    There isn't really a reason not to get one, you're going to be wearing something on your head anyway so you might as well wear something that might save your life one day.
     
  15. beh

    Wise Guy

    Joined: Oct 16, 2003

    Posts: 2,146

    Genuinely, I would love to be convinced because it would make it an easy decision. My reasons for not owning one aren't great, the expense to buy/hire, uncomfortable and frequently too warm to wear, and they're a bulky item to have in luggage. Maybe more modern helmets solve some of these issues?

    How fast do you ski? Given the testing standards they don't seem to be intended for typical speeds. Is it a false sense of security that will lead to more risks being taken?

    As with cycle helmets it's a interesting subject for research, although I do wear one as they're far less intrusive/inconvenient.
     
  16. Furyus

    Hitman

    Joined: Sep 15, 2010

    Posts: 866

    Location: Weston-super-Mare

    The main reason I wear a helmet is purely because I'm a father! And don't want my kids growing up while there dad is in a vegetable state!

    And it only takes a small fall, you don't even have to be going fast! rocks are everywhere!

    I've got one guy on the group with us, Who refuses to wear one! And goes on about how he's being skiing for 20+ years and never needed one! I can think of one word to describe him!!!!
     
  17. jpaul

    Soldato

    Joined: Mar 1, 2010

    Posts: 7,346

    Interesting point here I had not considered

    but they are selling insurance too;
    otherwise the stats they give are unsubstantiated in article, and lack detail.

    some more genuine stats etc. the survey's they have done ask the injured parties if they have had alcohol/other recently :p breath testing on its way ?
    For snow boarders wrist protectors+helmet seem recommended.

    Lesson I have learned, with own ski's, is not to skimp on edge maintenance, after a few icey encounters in Brevant/G.Montets - accident prevention is better ...
     
  18. mid_gen

    Sgarrista

    Joined: Dec 20, 2004

    Posts: 8,279

    Location: Düsseldorf

    It depends what you want. I really enjoyed Kopaonik last time I went, and having gone to Morzine/Avoriaz this year, I think I'm going to go back to Kopaonik next. It's just better value. You can do a full week in a ski-in/out hotel at the lifts with as much food and drink as you can fit in your face for a fraction the cost of an equivalent long weekend in the alps.

    Cons

    4-5 hour transfer from Belgrade (cheap though)
    Small resort
    No black-level or even difficult reds

    Pros

    It's incredibly cheap (30 EUR six day lift pass, 1 EUR beer, 5 EUR steak dinner)
    It's quiet (no queues, more slope time)
    The snow is generally good
    Has a park and some fun bumpy terrain for falling off
    It's got some OK powder runs which the predominantly skiiing locals didn't touch
    The people are great, they don't see a lot of Brits there
    Got a few bars/clubs if you want to get into your apres
     
  19. mid_gen

    Sgarrista

    Joined: Dec 20, 2004

    Posts: 8,279

    Location: Düsseldorf

    I always wear a helmet now. Not so much worried about me stacking it into a rock as some idiot hitting me and clashing heads.
     
  20. Furyus

    Hitman

    Joined: Sep 15, 2010

    Posts: 866

    Location: Weston-super-Mare

    bit of a long shot here,

    But I've got a friend in France (biarritz) and he's trying to get to Courchevel 1850 on the 19/03/17 and return 26/03/17, now he would drive, But it's coming in at alot! apparently france have a huge amount of tolls! and fuel etc. any Idea how he could get there? Train bus or anything I've overlooked?

    any help would be great.

    Cheers