SNP to break up Britian?
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Which is why it should happen the Scottish are much more socialist than the English who would sell their granny (Nan) to make a quick buck.
I do but I'm happy for the English to have many years of conservative governance. Without Scotland to beat up it will be the North of England.
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You think they will kick the uk (more importantly that financial behemoth that is London) out just because scotland goes independent?
You think they will kick the uk (more importantly that financial behemoth that is London) out just because scotland goes independent?
He's just over estimating or holding an inflated opinion of how important Scotland is to the UK, he seems to see Scottish Independence as the UK splitting in two, not just a small part fragmenting off.
I doubt it Stuart, the EU need the cash from whatever the UK is called if Scotland leaves. I'm more interested in whether they'd want Scotland in it and whether Scotland would want to be in it, I can't see Scotland being a net contributor to the EU post independence.
Clearly independence is a bad idea for Scotland. Since the success and stability of an independent Scotland will be based on the opinions of people who haven't done any research into the matter we will be heading for instant bankruptcy. Somebody should tell Salmond to call the whole thing off, he's the only one who wants it after all.
I consider myself British before English. And I don't even think of England as a country tbh, for me its just the name given to an area of Britain. Scots, Irish and Welsh are all my countrymen. Having Scotland turn around and say "**** you United Kingdom, we're better than the union and we're going it alone", I find difficult to understand. For me its something akin to chopping one of your legs of... How does it help exactly? So imo Alex Salmond is a dick.
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So how would you feel being constantly told by a neighbour that you are incapable of running your own household and that they will do it all for you. Sounds good? Well maybe, up until they take all of your wages away, hand you back a pittance and continually refer to you as a stone around their neck and nothing better than a scrounger.
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This is actually only happening in your head.
You have your own parliament for christ sakes.
Everyone in the UK is ruled by Westminster, its not just done like that to spite the forever complaining Scots.
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If he's still judged to be a danger or will be in danger then it's right he remains guarded but that's a different proposition to it being a fudge of sorts to simply jail him indefinitely.
Edinburgh is or was one of the top three financial centres in Europe, there's a fair drop off after London but that's still a fairly impressive point to note. As for whether Scotland would be a net contributor or not to the EU if it were to become independent - I don't know and I don't care to guess, you can split the figures many ways and they might all be (at least partly) true depending on the starting assumptions.
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Er not really.
Edinburgh is the back end administration side of finance. All the real action happens down in London.
The backend functions can happen anywhere, it just so happens they have conglomerated on Edinburgh.
Would be very easy to up sticks and move to another location should the barmy fat controller get his way.
By equity assets I believe they are number 4. Other measurements they can be a lot lower, this is quite an interesting evaluation of financial centres globally
http://www.longfinance.net/Publications/GFCI 11.pdf
Yeah, you just seem bitter.
Let's lump all Scots in together, I take it being English you'll be off to Morris dancing classes this weekend? As I assume everyone who's English does that. Ah wait a minute my wife is English and she doesn't... Perhaps all Scots aren't forever complaining?
What amuses me is the silent minority completely ignored on both sides of the border - English and Welsh folk living in Scotland who will get a vote, how on earth do they feel about it? At times it feels like there's a flood of hate filled bile flowing in both directions with them stuck in the middle.
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This is exactly the problem with this debate. It does everything to highlight trivial differences and promote extremes. But when has a nationalist agenda done anything less. It's a real shame.
Scotland could be a substantial net producer of electricity. It has potentially huge wave and tidal resources - have you seen the sea off Scotland, especially around the north? I've been out there in a sizable boat that was being pushed around like a piece of fluff in a gale, and that was just normal conditions (or else it wouldn't have been out at all).
Scotland also has some potential for tourism income - there's some beautiful countryside and some interesting history.
Scotland also has some very fine educational establishments and associated research centres.
It wouldn't necessarily be a one trick pony.
Also importantly, it doesn't have all that many people to support. The London metropolitan area alone has a population more than twice as large as the whole of Scotland. So what resources Scotland can exploit would be spread out over far fewer people.
"Something between Romania and Lithuania" might be a reasonable description of Scotland before England bailed it out after the union, but it wouldn't necessarily end up that way now.
You think they will kick the uk (more importantly that financial behemoth that is London) out just because scotland goes independent?
That wasn't in reference to the EU aspect; and if you had actually read anything I've typed I'm clearly of the opinion both Scotland and the rUK in that scenario would be members of the EU.
No, I just understand the constitutional legacy of the creation of the UK.