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So no 580 in stcok and over £300 for a 570 well done Nvidia

People are buying the 570 at this price, nVidia made the right move (for themselves) but the prices will go down to around what the AMD 6970/6950 offers

Nah they screwed up on the price of the 570, they should have launched it at £250-260 inc vat. even if they had to jack it up later, with the timing it would have mopped up for Christmas and put AMD in a tough spot. Instead it gives AMD manouvering space.
 
This is exactly what worries me about the 500 series cards - all they have done is spend a long time trying to tweak an existing architecture. It could be a short term stop gap to grab more cash and buy some time to develop the next gen card. The 500 series could turn out to be a very short term prospect.

I did have a tweet from Charlie saying the exact same thing
Also saying stock will be very very limited and in short supply for a good time
 
Nah they screwed up on the price of the 570, they should have launched it at £250-260 inc vat. even if they had to jack it up later, with the timing it would have mopped up for Christmas and put AMD in a tough spot. Instead it gives AMD manouvering space.

Yeah, I think its a safe bet ATI will just drop the 6850 in around the £250-£270 mark as Nvidia have left the door wide open for them with a £300+ midrange effort.

I kind of expected Nvidia to launch a dual GTX570 to compete with HD6990, when that gets realised ATI will have the high market all to themselves.

Really the GTX470 has found the natural selling point for the GTX570, the £70-£80 Nvidia have placed on top is just to off set the inevitable price drop they will need to make. If they can sell 10,000 cards now at £70 over odds they have a buffer if they need to adjust the price, kind of unfair on the early adopters but I think it will mainly be the Nvidia die hards buying the GTX570 anyway.

Where the hell are you looking for over 300 pounds for a 570? lol

LOL , Erm here ?
http://www.overclockers.co.uk/productlist.php?groupid=701&catid=56&subid=1010
 
Yeah, I think its a safe bet ATI will just drop the 6850 in around the £250-£270 mark as Nvidia have left the door wide open for them with a £300+ midrange effort.

I kind of expected Nvidia to launch a dual GTX570 to compete with HD6990, when that gets realised ATI will have the high market all to themselves.

Really the GTX470 has found the natural selling point for the GTX570, the £70-£80 Nvidia have placed on top is just to off set the inevitable price drop they will need to make. If they can sell 10,000 cards now at £70 over odds they have a buffer if they need to adjust the price, kind of unfair on the early adopters but I think it will mainly be the Nvidia die hards buying the GTX570 anyway.


LOL , Erm here ?
http://www.overclockers.co.uk/productlist.php?groupid=701&catid=56&subid=1010

Nvidia is maybe going to be the other way round to the 5850/5870 where us early adopters got it cheaper and all the the people who held back got to pay more. Well apart from the people whor really held back and got an awesome deal(5870)
 
Nah they screwed up on the price of the 570, they should have launched it at £250-260 inc vat.

This ^^ the 570s are definitely £50+ too expensive for my liking.

Having said that I'm sure the prices will fall into line pretty swiftly as soon as AMD release their new cards.
 
Unless AMD bring out something absolutely blinding from the 6970 or drop the price silly low, along with the 5x0 shenanigans I'm feeling better and better about my GTX470 SLI every day.
 
Unless AMD bring out something absolutely blinding from the 6970 or drop the price silly low, along with the 5x0 shenanigans I'm feeling better and better about my GTX470 SLI every day.

And that is your biggest problem.
You should feel good about what you have without the need for something else to be worse for you to feel good about it.

How Sad!.
 
I think everyone kind of agrees the 570 isn't winning any contests here. The 6970 is going to cause quite a ruckus when it comes out, even if they initially didn't plan to exploit the weaknesses in Nvidias launch strategy they have every opportunity to do it now. Drop low, sell many, leave the competition with the pieces.
Shame if this does happen though, I'd love to see some even odds between the two...

Unless AMD bring out something absolutely blinding from the 6970 or drop the price silly low, along with the 5x0 shenanigans I'm feeling better and better about my GTX470 SLI every day.

Do you have any kind of special cooling or noise reduction with those 470s? I only have the single and while not as bad as expected, it still stirs up a little when playing games. Two of those and it might be too much :confused:
 
Nothing that special, stock coolers, my case has good airflow which helps to keep fan speeds down tho*. TBH theres not much difference in noise levels from single to SLI until the fans get up over 60% or so.



* Also the 2nd card happens to have an 80mm fan vent (at the bottom of the case) right by the intake which makes quite a difference. http://aten-hosted.com/images/470slic.jpg
 
Well TSMC will start to dabble with 28nm some time around summer, Nvidia will get chips back and testing will take them to around winter time, add design tweaks, production ramping and retail work. I would say 15-18 months before we see the 600 cards.

That'll do me fine:)
570/580
6950/6970

Take your pick, all good enough until DX12 arrives:)
 
I'd be suprised if its that long if everything goes right we should see nVidia pushing out something on 28nm HP by around Nov.
 
Nothing that special, stock coolers, my case has good airflow which helps to keep fan speeds down tho*. TBH theres not much difference in noise levels from single to SLI until the fans get up over 60% or so.



* Also the 2nd card happens to have an 80mm fan vent (at the bottom of the case) right by the intake which makes quite a difference. http://aten-hosted.com/images/470slic.jpg

Nice, I may just have the confidence to SLI after all :) (You know, when I can afford to!) My case is only a HAF 912 though so I don't know how I stand as airflow goes.
What case are you using~?
 
NZXT Blackline wouldn't be my first choice if I was buying again but I was going for a black with red lighting look (has the Coolermaster V8 in there).
 
Haha, better circulation than mine, but so long as I can run games without too much noise and heat then it should be fine. I'm not much of an enthusiast, I just want things to look pretty...
Might change over to 570 instead of SLI down the line if prices drop effectively enough (to get back on topic and all~)
 
Unless AMD bring out something absolutely blinding from the 6970 or drop the price silly low, along with the 5x0 shenanigans I'm feeling better and better about my GTX470 SLI every day.

Why would it matter if something better comes that out shines your setup? Surely you bought it because it was the best value for price/performance at the time, and given that you can't really predict the future you should feel the same as you did the day you bought it, not better. :confused:

I don't feel better every time a new CPU comes out that is better than my E5400, because I bought it knowing it would do what I wanted it to do and knew faster chips would come in a short period of time.

Truly confused, unless you are just trying to make yourself feel better incase the 6970 is almost as fast/faster than your setup, but that's really not likely is it.

Shed some light, and please more than three words would be awesome. :cool:
 
Because my GTX470 SLI setup was cheaper than a single GTX580 while giving considerably better performance and when overclocked is not far behind an overclocked GTX580 SLI setup that costs considerably more. With the 570 not really changing that with the current prices then unless the latest and greatest AMD GPUs are considerably faster than the top nVidia cards or considerably cheaper I'll be even happier at the value for money I'm getting from my setup instead of it quickly being rendered obsolete by new cards. I assumed that was fairly elementary.
 
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