Soccer sickies
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I was quoted during the course of your discussion so i will post more clear views.
Humans are lazy, full stop, this includes everyone, its genetic. A policy of benefits will simply encourage this. Many people say why work, my benefits will go down, its useless. Some others will say, why save, if i don't save the government will pay me benefits in retirement etc.
Your perspective needs to be adjusted, you believe it is the elites who have, or should have views on "benefit scroungers", this is wrong, it is the workers who should have these views, and rightly so, if they plan to remain workers anyway.
The elites do not care who is on benefits, as they do not lose out due to it, in-fact they gain, the worker is the one who loses out.
The way to think about it is, who is saving, or getting richer.
Now i work within the system, so i save money, buy "assets". So long as i can keep saving my wealth would go up, and eventually, even if i am unemployed it will still go up.
My definition of elite is that you are unemployed, but that your wealth still increases. So if you are very frugal, you can achieve this on even less than £1million.
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As for paying tax, i dont agree with the current system we live in, there is no way to vote on any issue as all governments only want to increase spending and welfare etc.
So the only solution is to pay less tax, and exclude myself. I don't want the NHS, nor do i want a state pension, or benefits etc
I believe you should vote with your money, don't like something, don't buy it.
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I was also self employed, you cannot put luxury personal things as expenses, only actual expenses, you can just lie about it, all they ask is one number "expenses". If you put it too high you might be flagged and audited, if its reasonable they will ignore you.
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As for sick days, in my company if you call sick, you dont get paid. If you bring a doctors note and are sick for 4+ days (its the legal requirmeent nothing more) then you will get SSP which is, afaik like £100 a week now.
So really call sick i do more work, who cares, i am there from X to Y time anyway.
As for salary, everyone is an hourly employee. Your contract says how many hours you work = Hourly employee.
If you are truly on salary then, your contract does not state hours or days. Can you exploit that? In theory yes, but only if your boss does not sack you.
Now i know a lot of people call sick on friday or whatever, still get paid for it, the only reason that is true is because nobody really cares much, if they did, you'd either have to do overtime, or your pay would be less.
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Yikes. Well, those are hardly the only things your tax pays for anyhow.
And there's always the example of places like Greece, to show what happens when people decide to stop paying tax.
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As i said, i have no ability to influence anything, so while i am willing to pay X amount of tax up until a certain point, depending what it is spent on, but that is just dreaming, back to reality if i can pay zero i would. However paying zero is not likely possible, so it would just be reduced as much as possible within the law.
Like for example, i would never give welfare for doing nothing, i would however create a job for you.
What will that job be, who knows. I see a lot of potholes in the streets, go fill them in. I see rubbish on weekends, go and pick it up. Just walk for 1 hour and tell me what is wrong and what needs fixing. But in absolutely no circumstance would i pay anyone to do nothing.
The problem is, in my company if you call sick you don't get paid. The companies who will still pay you even though you call sick I would not say they are treating the staff like crap etc.. To me its sort of a paradox.
Mine does pay sick pay, but why take the mick they're a good employer. If there was no job flexibility, no training, overworked and no sick pay I would be looking for another job ASAP. Not too sure why people moan about their employers, if they dont like it, there are many more employers
Probably because holiday leave is rota'd in and approved in advance, and if you work in a team you have to ensure cover for the person on leave. So everybody knows when you're on holiday leave.
Depends what your job is but I imagine that's how most would know.
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They take the mick because they are lazy and useless. You are absolutely right, look for another job.
I was watching someone on youtube, not important to say who, but he told the story of getting his first job in some US store. He put in effort, worked hard used his brain. However no reward. In-fact quite the opposite, he did unapproved overtime of 1 hour and got told off by his manager. He looked at the other staff who skived and did as little as possible complaining that the wage was too low, people who prided themselves of doing the least amount of work they can get away with and he saw himself becoming like that.
I see this also, the difference is i will never become like that. Maybe i am a bit OCD, but i work hard either way. If i can find something better i will resign and leave, simple.
As i have said before, this is the normal thing everyone is lazy. And so the useless person will eventually be the manager, and everything goes like this.
Where's Fred today? Oh he's on holiday or oh he phoned in sick this morning, skiving ******* etc etc...anywhere I've worked
Not 'career' type jobs tho....
Company I worked for is trying the whole 'covid caused it' line to remove employee benefits & change our work patterns so we end up working more for less & is nothing to do with how the business has been mismanaged over the last 7-8 years.
Granted, had it not been for the government paying our wages and operating costs throughout the pandemic we'd have been finished but 2020-2021 (financial year) has been the 1st in 6 that the company hasn't made a loss.
They're still claiming we have because we didn't take as much as projected pre-covid. Ie the projected a 10mil income and we achieved 8mil so in their eyes we lost 2mil despite break-even balance sheets.
It was a charity so the government has always paid our wages but they blamed it on the projected budget during the pandemic, won't get rid of the 100k a year CEO or 80-90k a year directors though!
I worked for a company not long after leaving school and when it came to the annual pay review they sent everyone letters saying they were struggling and hadn't made a profit so were unable to give any pay rises that year, 2 weeks later the MD was pictured in the local newspaper picking up an award for best small business of the year and having made a profit of 5million. Needless to say this didn't go down to well amongst the staff and they were forced into a U-turn on the pay rise...
Have a school governor meeting this evening - mostly non-football fans I think but there will be a couple looking to rush through the agenda.
I'm considering the level of bribe* to request to not raise 101 AOB items at the end of the meeting.
Item 1 - quality of mashed potato in school canteen.
Item 2 - which shade of white to paint the radiators
Item 3 .......
*payment to be made in cans of quality beer
I'm considering the level of bribe* to request to not raise 101 AOB items at the end of the meeting.
Item 1 - quality of mashed potato in school canteen.
Item 2 - which shade of white to paint the radiators
Item 3 .......
*payment to be made in cans of quality beer
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That's why supermarkets don't like their staff to be ill, it puts pressure on everybody else.
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There;ll be a few 'sickies' today, England're playing.
Every year we get told that it's been a tough year so pay rises will have to be quite limited (usually a negligible rise). This year we were told that it's been an OK year but because of the pandemic they don't know whether next year will be bad so they have to err on the side of caution and give very limited payrises again this year. I can bet next year it will be "last year was OK but this year hasn't been as good so we have to give limited payrises". They make it up as they go along. Any excuse to avoid any kind of payrise.
We also get frequent layoffs and told we have to "do more with less".
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Wasn’t Greece a double whammy as a considerable percentage of their workforce were/are employed by the Greek government?
Oh indeed. Despite it being obvious that mismanagment of the company by our OpCo senior leadership that's caused the issue, they've 'repositioned' those individuals into other roles within the parent company rather than firing them, so no real consequences for upper management.
Luckily we have a union so they'd never get away with a stunt like that.
Unfortunately we're struggling to cover the contracts we have due to driver shortages. Because of the constant attack on drivers and persistantly using covid as an excuse to circumvent terms and & condition contracts so we end up working longer and with shorter breaks/rest periods.
The latest fight we are currently having is that they want to make us take CPC courses in our own time, despite being in the base contract that it was on company time.