Solar panels and battery - any real world reccomendations?

Like a lot of people here, I had my worst solar day so far on Saturday with 2.47KWh, luckily had a good day Friday so started the day with 40% charge which helped a little, but still went flat early evening.

Spent most of the weekend messing around with the GivEnergy API using Javascript on my Athom Homey home automation controller. Got all the basic battery control working, plus data logging of the current state (generation, consumption, charge etc.) which I can then graph or export automatically, also grabbing historical data to calculate average usage for each half period on each individual day of the week and finally wrote a function that will charge the battery to a specific level by a given time (which I think is slightly smarter than the GivEnergy implementation).

The Homey has a nice system of logic where devices have "flow cards" associated with them (Events, Actions and Conditions), so I have created cards for the battery and can now integrate it easily with other devices, so can do logic like "If battery is 60% charged, and the outside temperature is 20, then turn on the kitchen light", or even something that has some sort of practical use! Currently just have it yelling at me when the battery either fully charges or fully discharges, but will hopefully come up with some more useful ways of using it, for instance, think I should be able to spot a power cut and automatically turn off devices to save battery charge etc.

Next step is to try and implement access to my Solcast solar forecast and use that along with the average usage data to automatically charge the battery to the optimum level overnight, which will be useful when my economy 7 tariff kicks in.

Finally, hoping to implement something that will optimise charging and export, based on Agile Outgoing prices, so for days with excess solar, working out the charge needed to fill the battery and doing that charging at the times with the lowest export prices and also and also controlling charge rate vs export to automatically account for the G98 export cap, so if generation exceeds the cap it will divert the excess to the battery.

Might all be largely pointless, but I'm enjoying myself!
 
The main downside of having a separate AC coupled battery I can see is that going from DC (pannels) to AC via inverter 1 back to DC (battery) via inverter 2 and then back to AC again as you use the stored energy results in a significant energy loss.

Where as on the hybrid system you are only doing that DC to AC conversion once to use the stored energy.

Just had a response from the guy who quoted who said it's the only option as the panels are across two roofs (he did mention that having a string of 3 on one roof necessitated optimisers). Is this sounding like BS?
 
That's weird, are you editing an existing install and they're checking it's compliant afterwards?

This was what mine said from SSE, so sounds similar.

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So I now have a full reply from the surveyor:

"£360+VAT is for a witness test that you are required to arrange see p.16. Please see guidance below from the ENA. Section 16.3 refers to the witness testing

http://www.dcode.org.uk/assets/uploads/ENA_EREC_G99_Issue_1_Amendment_6__2020_.pdf

In summary witness testing occurs when more than 16 Amps is being connected to a singular phase.

Now despite the above witness testing will not be required if the installer is on our approved installer list. Once our protection engineers are satisfied with the installations meet the ENA standards, for the installer in question, then they will be added to our approved installer list.

Once the installer is on our list, or the generation is less than 16 Amps per phase a witness test will not be required.

£319.05+VAT is for 2nd comer contribution to prior work. Any connectee who subsequently connects to and benefits from infrastructure paid for by an earlier connectee and is therefore liable to pay for their share of incurred costs under the Electricity (Connection Charges) Regulations."


So anyone with SSE wanting a G99 will have a £360 +VAT charge unless their installer is already approved by SSE.

The £319 is just bad luck that at some point within the last 5 10 years someone else in the street has paid for some upgrade works.


I am now going the G100 (G99 A it seems to actually be called) route instead ie. export limiting to 3.68kw
 
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I wonder if my installer is pre-approved by SSE then, bit of value add if so.

2nd comer is interesting especially as they charged the 1st comer already and are unlikely to be refunding them anything, seems like a scam to me!
 
I wonder if my installer is pre-approved by SSE then, bit of value add if so.

2nd comer is interesting especially as they charged the 1st comer already and are unlikely to be refunding them anything, seems like a scam to me!

Would appear to be a legal thing. Seems odd to me; this house has had a 100amp supply since it was built in 1980, why should I need to pay for someone else's upgrade somewhere else on the network.
Just another blocker on solar rollout to my mind. I'll share updates on how the G99-A (G100 aka I think) goes, they claim that has a 10 working day 'fast track'. We will see, it has taken 5 months to get to this stage so far with SSE.

"Connection assets
When customers connect to the electricity grid, they will require assets to be installed (such as underground cables) to connect their site to the existing grid. These are referred to as connection assets, although sometimes they are called sole use assets, as they are only used to supply one site. The connecting customer will pay the full cost of these works.

If another customer wishes to connect to these sole use assets (and the capacity of those assets is sufficient) within 10 years of the connection of the first customer who required them (as from 6th April 2017, as before that the prescribed period was 5 years), the second comer needs to pay the first customer a proportion of the cost of the sole use assets. This is to the benefit of both customers, as the cost of the assets is shared.

The split of the cost depends on both the capacity split between the first and subsequent customers, and (for a circuit) the proportion of the length of the circuit being used by the subsequent customer. The contribution is paid by the second comer to the Distribution Network Operator (DNO), who passes the payment on to the first customer. "
 
In other news, Home Assistant is awesome. It is fully monitoring my solar deployment, can automate devices switching on/off eg. the immersion, shows everything in a live dashboard without the 5 minute lag the LuxPower portal has, it even captures my gas useage via Octopus' reporting (24 hr lag on that). It is also showing me my day-ahead solar forecast so I could use it to optimise overnight charge levels. I will post some screenshots later.
 
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Like a lot of people here, I had my worst solar day so far on Saturday with 2.47KWh, luckily had a good day Friday so started the day with 40% charge which helped a little, but still went flat early evening.
Not quite doing what we call in the forums 'Doing a Ron-ski' - where you manage sub 1kwh in a day.

Horrendous weather here today, so currently at 0.21kwh, so there's a chance I could be sub 1kwh today....!
 
Would appear to be a legal thing. Seems odd to me; this house has had a 100amp supply since it was built in 1980, why should I need to pay for someone else's upgrade somewhere else on the network.
Just another blocker on solar rollout to my mind. I'll share updates on how the G99-A (G100 aka I think) goes, they claim that has a 10 working day 'fast track'. We will see, it has taken 5 months to get to this stage so far with SSE.

"Connection assets
When customers connect to the electricity grid, they will require assets to be installed (such as underground cables) to connect their site to the existing grid. These are referred to as connection assets, although sometimes they are called sole use assets, as they are only used to supply one site. The connecting customer will pay the full cost of these works.

If another customer wishes to connect to these sole use assets (and the capacity of those assets is sufficient) within 10 years of the connection of the first customer who required them (as from 6th April 2017, as before that the prescribed period was 5 years), the second comer needs to pay the first customer a proportion of the cost of the sole use assets. This is to the benefit of both customers, as the cost of the assets is shared.

The split of the cost depends on both the capacity split between the first and subsequent customers, and (for a circuit) the proportion of the length of the circuit being used by the subsequent customer. The contribution is paid by the second comer to the Distribution Network Operator (DNO), who passes the payment on to the first customer. "

Newish house?
 
In other news, Home Assistant is awesome. It is fully monitoring my solar deployment, can automate devices switching on/off eg. the immersion, shows everything in a live dashboard without the 5 minute lag the LuxPower portal has, it even captures my gas useage via Octopus' reporting (24 hr lag on that). It is also showing me my day-ahead solar forecast so I could use it to optimise overnight charge levels. I will post some screenshots later.

Well I have mentioned it at least once.... ;)

Agree totally, it's amazingly useful for solar - even better I can control my car charging, eddi, dishwashers, washing machines.

Then integrating solar forecasts as you describe makes it even more fun!
 
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Not quite doing what we call in the forums 'Doing a Ron-ski' - where you manage sub 1kwh in a day.

Horrendous weather here today, so currently at 0.21kwh, so there's a chance I could be sub 1kwh today....!

Bet Ron-ski is doing a little rain dance now and sending clouds your way :D

Currently 563wh at the moment so i maybe going to join the club!
 
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Reading about having to plan when and how much to charge batteries really makes the PW2 a god send. It does all of that for you.
Ah yes but my 10.5kwh of PylonTech LIFEPO4 storage cost £3,300 total plus £80 for the Raspberry Pi/Home Assistant to control it... so I suspect I have some wiggle room to pay myself with to set it up ;)

Would love to see what the Tesla control/app looks like though if you wouldn't mind sharing?
 
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