Solar panels and battery - any real world reccomendations?

I would not be using Heatable, your increasing costs to suit them

Bifacial panels will have absolutely negligible gains when installed on a roof as typically done in the UK. They are designed to work where there is plenty of reflected light, think car ports, ground mount arrays etc.

Heatable use micro inverters mounted to the rear of the panel, and thus don't need a separate inverter, great for shading (doesn't look like you have any), they are potentially safer, downsides you'll need to pay for scaffolding if any fail.

The PW3 has three solar string inputs, so it would make more sense to use these than micro inverters if there isn't any shading issues.

Having two separate systems, PV panels and battery will add complications to the user experience.

I'm also not convinced the Rea Fusion panels are significantly better, every video I've seen with Heatable or there buddies trying to prove they are has so far been flawed one way or another.

Use a good quality panel with the same or very similar specs, and I doubt it will perform much differently. Also what they doit tell you is the Micro inverters can't handle the full power of the panels, so it's possible to get some clipping.

The PW3 is a great system, and of I was to install one without shading issues I would certainly connect the panels to it.

Perhaps if you post what area you're on people can make installer suggestions.
Thanks for this.

I'm just on the fringe of Liverpool, so in the North-West region.
 
I forgot the REA panels are also on micro inverters, that’s where all the cost is.

As Ron said the Tesla unit is a hybrid inverter, you’d want to connect the panels directly to it.

I’d avoid the other nationals like Octopus, their prices are high and generally rely on people not wanting to do the legwork ringing round all the locals. Although ironically Eon subcontract to the installer that did mine in my area - I got a way better price going direct.
 
I forgot the REA panels are also on micro inverters, that’s where all the cost is.

As Ron said the Tesla unit is a hybrid inverter, you’d want to connect the panels directly to it.

I’d avoid the other nationals like Octopus, their prices are high and generally rely on people not wanting to do the legwork ringing round all the locals. Although ironically Eon subcontract to the installer that did mine in my area - I got a way better price going direct.
I though that'd be the case :p I've got a free consultation call booked in with them just to get the quote, anyway.

Am I wrong to start discounting locals just based on their website saying they install an 8kw battery? :p or is that being too fussy.
 
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I though that'd be the case :p I've got a free consultation call booked in with them just to get the quote, anyway.

Am I wrong to start discounting locals just based on their website saying they install an 8kw battery? :p or is that being too fussy.

Just tell them what you want, it easier than asking for what they'll offer. If you want a PW3 with all the bells and whistles and a roof full of panels ask them to quote for that. Why mess around seeing what 'they' want to install when they'll all want something different and your requirements remain the same?
 
I though that'd be the case :p I've got a free consultation call booked in with them just to get the quote, anyway.

Am I wrong to start discounting locals just based on their website saying they install an 8kw battery? :p or is that being too fussy.
Probably yes, most of them just put on example packages on their sites.

If you are interested in a Tesla Powerwall, your choice of installer is more limited though. Tesla can refer you to a local installer, I’m not sure there is a list publicly available but I’m sure they could provide one if you asked.

If you want an equivalent product, GivEnergy are launching a hybrid version of their ‘all in one’ in the new year which is essentially the same and it will probably be cheaper. The Tesla unit will be a more mature product but has less of an ecosystem around it.

You’ll be able to use both on Octopus intelligent flux in the summer.
 
We are in cheshire and used https://eternal-renewable-energy.co.uk/

They were amazing. See our install earlier in this thread
 
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Can you have batteries installed indoors? One curse of being in a modestly-sized new build means we lack space to the side, front, and back :p all of the front is pretty much taken up with nowhere to fit a battery, the sides are a no-go as the house boundary is basically the wall, and on the rear there's probably a large enough space, however that's going to be taken up with the external unit for A/C we'll be getting fitted in a few months, not to mention the front is the south-facing side, and is where both the incoming mains and consumer units are so would mean throwing everything from the front to the back, the back to the front again :D

I think we'll have to sacrifice a bit of wall space in the converted garage we have. Small benefit is that it can be fitted quite near to the consumer unit.
 
Yes you can have batteries indoors, although they have recently restricted where you can put them, places like lofts and understairs cupboards are longer permitted, some other places may also be considered not suitable.

The garage may be your best bet, or get the AC unit mounted on a wall bracket and put the batteries underneath. Garage would be better as they would be kept a little warmer in the winter, and easier wiring to the consumer unit by the sounds of.
 
Yes you can have batteries indoors, although they have recently restricted where you can put them, places like lofts and understairs cupboards are longer permitted, some other places may also be considered not suitable.

Pretty sure this is just guidance, not regulations (yet).
 
I believe you are correct, but a lot of the better firms will be working to that guidance.
To be fair I wouldn’t want to put a battery in the loft anyway, particularly these 100kg monsters that most people want these days. They are just way too heavy, you’ve got to get it up there through a loft hatch and potentially back out again once it’s dead or for warranty. No thanks!

I’m less fussed by under the stairs but I can see the logic. I certainly wouldn’t charge an ebike battery I got from a popular marketplace under the stairs!
 
The garage may be your best bet, or get the AC unit mounted on a wall bracket and put the batteries underneath. Garage would be better as they would be kept a little warmer in the winter, and easier wiring to the consumer unit by the sounds of.
As it's a converted garage with walls and ceiling it's kept at a normal temperature all year round :D I'll also need to check if much room needs to be allowed around the unit too (i.e., how close furniture can be etc).
 
Still, it’s an extra £1000 on what should be a ~£11k (perhaps £12k) install if you went with a power wall 3 which is expensive in itself. That is still a lot of 15p’s to make up.
Had a quote from the well-regarded Spectra Solar, £12k all-in for 10x Aiko Neostar 2S 455W and PW3, which seems a bit more sensible. Worth noting that the Heatable quote at £14k didn't include scaffolding costs either.
 
Had a quote from the well-regarded Spectra Solar, £12k all-in for 10x Aiko Neostar 2S 455W and PW3, which seems a bit more sensible.
That’s a more sensible price. PW3 carries a bit of a premium but it’s a good product and you do get what you pay for.

It’s worth noting that it can be done cheaper but you’ll not be getting the same capabilities.

Worth noting that the Heatable quote at £14k didn't include scaffolding costs either.
So closer to £15k than £14k in reality!
 
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Had a quote from the well-regarded Spectra Solar, £12k all-in for 10x Aiko Neostar 2S 455W and PW3, which seems a bit more sensible. Worth noting that the Heatable quote at £14k didn't include scaffolding costs either.
That's more like it, is your front roof south facing as per the picture you posted.

If you wanted more panels it might be worth seeing what they'd charge for doing in roof on the lower section.
 
@squerble

I use those panels, rate them very highly, very good in cloudy conditions as well.
They're available in 510w versions now too if you have 200mm to spare over the 455w panels.

 
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