SOME RYZEN 7 1700 OVERCLOCKING!

ozzyo99 · 19 Mar 2017 at 02:03

Still using stock cooler so being very conservative, but this seems stable. Anybody see anything drastically wrong with it, or where I can improve it?
3.9 CPU / 3263 RAM c16

easyrider · 19 Mar 2017 at 03:12

ozzyo99 said:
Still using stock cooler so being very conservative, but this seems stable. Anybody see anything drastically wrong with it, or where I can improve it?
3.9 CPU / 3263 RAM c16

Run a stress test ?

prime small FFT for 8hrs?

steve258 · 19 Mar 2017 at 06:21

Combat squirrel said:
Any differences in b350 and x370 overclocks so far ?

I think the chipsets themselves are equally capable of overclock, its solely down to board and VRM design, and most of all, silicon lottery.

B350 are priced cheaper and so in general has fewer VRM phases and that hurts under high oc. With the same chip under 2 different platforms I recon maybe only 100mhz or so difference at the top end. With B350 board requiring more vcore to sustain higher oc. It would be very interesting to see someone with the same chip testing on both platforms.

ozzyo99 · 19 Mar 2017 at 06:55

easyrider said:
Run a stress test ?

prime small FFT for 8hrs?

LOL

eyetrip · 19 Mar 2017 at 07:37

ozzyo99 said:
LOL

LOL?

ozzyo99 · 19 Mar 2017 at 08:12

eyetrip said:
LOL?

You must have missed the joke

FWIW I'm not planning to do anything of the sort until I have my x62 mounted on it.

It runs Cinebench, Realbench, various games and 3d Mark without issues and so is good enough for right now. Don't trust the stock cooler and preapplied TIM to keep it under control with the unreliable temp reporting (though mine seems to report reasonable values).

Also, as i don't plan on discovering any new prime numbers runs outside of its proposed usage are pointless...

It's like a 100m runner training a marathon, it's pointless.

Zeed · 19 Mar 2017 at 09:27

Im a 5k runner did some half marathobs tho.

Left aida overnight and no problemo

Combat squirrel · 19 Mar 2017 at 10:08

So it seems nearly any ryzen will do 3.8/3.9, a few 4-4.1??? So basically naff all difference, and no point in mega high end hardware unless ur doing it for a hobby? Real world ~200mhz won't make much difference to the end user, I wouldnt notice in photoshop actually using it between 3.9/4.1? Seems the architecture just doesn't like v v high clock speeds.

eyetrip · 19 Mar 2017 at 10:15

Combat squirrel said:
So it seems nearly any ryzen will do 3.8/3.9, a few 4-4.1??? So basically naff all difference, and no point in mega high end hardware unless ur doing it for a hobby? Real world ~200mhz won't make much difference to the end user, I wouldnt notice in photoshop actually using it between 3.9/4.1? Seems the architecture just doesn't like v v high clock speeds.

Potentially the main place we will see a difference with current generation of stuff is with running higher memory.

But will have to wait for BIOS updates all around to know for certain.

But the chips themselves don't seem to vary much, and no, it doesn't seem to take a high end board to push them to their limits.

Frozennova · 19 Mar 2017 at 10:20

Combat squirrel said:
So it seems nearly any ryzen will do 3.8/3.9, a few 4-4.1??? So basically naff all difference, and no point in mega high end hardware unless ur doing it for a hobby? Real world ~200mhz won't make much difference to the end user, I wouldnt notice in photoshop actually using it between 3.9/4.1? Seems the architecture just doesn't like v v high clock speeds.

Pretty much, it was mentioned in one of the threads that the 14nm process used its geared towards efficiency in the 3-3.6ghz region IIRC

gavinh87 · 19 Mar 2017 at 10:26

eyetrip said:
Potentially the main place we will see a difference with current generation of stuff is with running higher memory.

But will have to wait for BIOS updates all around to know for certain.

But the chips themselves don't seem to vary much, and no, it doesn't seem to take a high end board to push them to their limits.

This. My benchmark scores dont differ that much from 3.7 to 4.0. Ram speeds are the biggest improvement.
I think I've lost the silicon lottery 4.0 @ 1.45v is not stable. Currently testing 3.9 @ 1.4v. Not holding my breath though. Hoping Zen+ of whatever its called can clock higher.

ozzyo99 · 19 Mar 2017 at 10:35

People need to stop comparing to the 7700k when they speak of low clocks, it's apples and oranges.

You buy Ryzen for the core count. If you can hit 3.7+ on a stock cooler at decent voltage and temps and high memory clocks (the bit I've been trying to push) we have a very nice system for years to come.

What we now need is BIOS maturity and the ability to hit 3600 memory, Ryzen seems to score nicely with higher memory.

Ynot · 19 Mar 2017 at 10:39

Combat squirrel said:
So it seems nearly any ryzen will do 3.8/3.9, a few 4-4.1??? So basically naff all difference, and no point in mega high end hardware unless ur doing it for a hobby? Real world ~200mhz won't make much difference to the end user, I wouldnt notice in photoshop actually using it between 3.9/4.1? Seems the architecture just doesn't like v v high clock speeds.

So, would you say buy the chip, say R 1700, install it and leave it alone, OC nothing and try and get away with running higher memory?

Thanks.

Combat squirrel · 19 Mar 2017 at 11:08

Ynot said:
So, would you say buy the chip, say R 1700, install it and leave it alone, OC nothing and try and get away with running higher memory?

Thanks.

I'm still weighing up Ryzen vs 7700k as per my thread in photo/video section.

It just seems the ryzens are sold near their limits anyway - so would I overclock ? Yes, but, I'm thinking IF I DID go Ryzen, id not bother with a £200+ mainboard - a M-ATX build seems ideal to me (saying that when is x300 out?) - Id just want my graphics card and an extra M.2 drive - its almost certain id get 3.8ghz without to much effort - id obviously see what the chip would do stable.

As for memory, well, is it even worth getting 3000mhz?? It seems most chips are not happy above 2666mhz so there would be little point in expensive ram ? (unless i was super planning ahead and hoping/praying Zen2 on AM4 allows much higher mem speeds)

gavinh87 · 19 Mar 2017 at 11:14

Combat squirrel said:
I'm still weighing up Ryzen vs 7700k as per my thread in photo/video section.

It just seems the ryzens are sold near their limits anyway - so would I overclock ? Yes, but, I'm thinking IF I DID go Ryzen, id not bother with a £200+ mainboard - a M-ATX build seems ideal to me (saying that when is x300 out?) - Id just want my graphics card and an extra M.2 drive - its almost certain id get 3.8ghz without to much effort - id obviously see what the chip would do stable.

As for memory, well, is it even worth getting 3000mhz?? It seems most chips are not happy above 2666mhz so there would be little point in expensive ram ? (unless i was super planning ahead and hoping/praying Zen2 on AM4 allows much higher mem speeds)

I would say that it is worth getting a £200+ mobo if you plan on staying with that platform. Overclocking seems more or less the same on both chipsets from my own experience but VRM temps are a lot higher on lower boards and you could eek out a little more on the x370 if you have a decent chip. The differences are when it comes to support, higher ram speeds and more frequent bios updates.
Its not the chip that limits the ram speed as you suggest, but the BIOS. Fast ram seems more beneficial than overclocking to be honest.

haszek · 19 Mar 2017 at 11:15

Combat squirrel said:
As for memory, well, is it even worth getting 3000mhz?? It seems most chips are not happy above 2666mhz so there would be little point in expensive ram ? (unless i was super planning ahead and hoping/praying Zen2 on AM4 allows much higher mem speeds)

AMD is going to increase memory compatibility around May. At least that's what they say, so hopefully zen2 not required

Combat squirrel · 19 Mar 2017 at 11:35

haszek said:
AMD is going to increase memory compatibility around May. At least that's what they say, so hopefully zen2 not required

How will they do that without changing the silicon ? - How will it be done via bios only ?

Any x370 M-ATX boards? I want a small portable rig I can take to different offices in a backpack.

haszek · 19 Mar 2017 at 11:42

By providing code to motherboard producers which will be implemented in BIOS

muon · 19 Mar 2017 at 11:45

Ynot said:
So, would you say buy the chip, say R 1700, install it and leave it alone, OC nothing and try and get away with running higher memory?

Thanks.

I'd take it to 3700mhz. That's an easy overclock which even B350 boards can do with ease. It's also fine with the stock cooler.

Matches the 1800x clockspeed as well which is psychologically nice.

The only issue with B350 boards, is I haven't come across anyone who has got the memory above 2666mhz. But again we are talking marginal gains at 3200mhz.

Techen · 19 Mar 2017 at 12:00

Is my chip any good at 3.9ghz at 1.336v, Been stable for the past 5 days of running it at that playing games and mutitasking, Ran aida64 for abit too, Completey fine. Memorys sitting at 3200mhz too. Not sure where to go from here, Was thinking 4.1 at 1.4v