SOME RYZEN 7 1700 OVERCLOCKING!

[Relentless81]

Is my chip any good at 3.9ghz at 1.336v, Been stable for the past 5 days of running it at that playing games and mutitasking, Ran aida64 for abit too, Completey fine. Memorys sitting at 3200mhz too. Not sure where to go from here, Was thinking 4.1 at 1.4v

Sounds good, what mobo/cpu/ram?

 

[eyetrip]

Is my chip any good at 3.9ghz at 1.336v, Been stable for the past 5 days of running it at that playing games and mutitasking, Ran aida64 for abit too, Completey fine. Memorys sitting at 3200mhz too. Not sure where to go from here, Was thinking 4.1 at 1.4v

Sounds decent. I'm running 3.95 with 1.36V.

I have used Realbench for testing, as well as been encoding, running VM's, with very little gaming.

 

[Techen]

MSI Titanium is what am using. My Ryzens underwater too so I kinda wanna push it abit more

 

[muon]

I don't think anyone has manged to get 4.1 bench stable yet.

Would be very interested to see what you get at 4.1 with 3200mhz memory.

 

[LtMatt]

Is my chip any good at 3.9ghz at 1.336v, Been stable for the past 5 days of running it at that playing games and mutitasking, Ran aida64 for abit too, Completey fine. Memorys sitting at 3200mhz too. Not sure where to go from here, Was thinking 4.1 at 1.4v

If stable, that is excellent.

For me to be fully stable (4-8 hours all memory utilised Real Bench) at 4.025Ghz (not 4Ghz) using P State Overclocking i need exactly 1.439v. 4Ghz dead on is around 1.394v-1.417v.

Have you run any extended stress tests or are you just using typical daily usage as a stability indicator?

 

[Techen]

If stable, that is excellent.

For me to be fully stable (4-8 hours all memory utilised Real Bench) at 4.025Ghz (not 4Ghz) using P State Overclocking i need exactly 1.439v. 4Ghz dead on is around 1.394v-1.417v.

Have you run any extended stress tests or are you just using typical daily usage as a stability indicator?

What should I be testing? I normally sit and play Battlefield 1, Siege and such while mutitasking on my other displays and such. Never had a BSOD or lock up yet. But that's normally what I use the computer for.

 

[Ynot]

I'd take it to 3700mhz. That's an easy overclock which even B350 boards can do with ease. It's also fine with the stock cooler.

Matches the 1800x clockspeed as well which is psychologically nice.

The only issue with B350 boards, is I haven't come across anyone who has got the memory above 2666mhz. But again we are talking marginal gains at 3200mhz.

OK thank you muon, good to know.

 

[Ynot]

I'm still weighing up Ryzen vs 7700k as per my thread in photo/video section.

It just seems the ryzens are sold near their limits anyway - so would I overclock ? Yes, but, I'm thinking IF I DID go Ryzen, id not bother with a £200+ mainboard - a M-ATX build seems ideal to me (saying that when is x300 out?) - Id just want my graphics card and an extra M.2 drive - its almost certain id get 3.8ghz without to much effort - id obviously see what the chip would do stable.

As for memory, well, is it even worth getting 3000mhz?? It seems most chips are not happy above 2666mhz so there would be little point in expensive ram ? (unless i was super planning ahead and hoping/praying Zen2 on AM4 allows much higher mem speeds)

Thank you Combat squirrel, I'm in the same boat, I cant decide either between the R 1700 or the 7700k for video editing/encoding.
Re memory, I was told that for my type of edit system anything above 2400Mhz can be prone to instability and I will see no real speed benefit from it at all.

thanks for the advice, I'll keep an eye on that other thread.

 

[LtMatt]

What should I be testing? I normally sit and play Battlefield 1, Siege and such while mutitasking on my other displays and such. Never had a BSOD or lock up yet. But that's normally what I use the computer for.

It's up to you, if what you are doing works for you then that's all that matters.

If you want to Run RealBench 2.43 you can download it here. Recommended to use all available memory when running the stress test.

 

[Combat squirrel]

Thank you Combat squirrel, I'm in the same boat, I cant decide either between the R 1700 or the 7700k for video editing/encoding.
Re memory, I was told that for my type of edit system anything above 2400Mhz can be prone to instability and I will see no real speed benefit from it at all.

thanks for the advice, I'll keep an eye on that other thread.

No probs sir, its REALLY difficult to choose, for reference my wants and wishes from either system:

MUST BE M-ATX (Not ITX, I need 2-3 PCI-E Slots)
Looks really nice
Smallest possible M-ATX Case (needs to be 'portable' - in that I can carry it in my car to another office - so small as poss and not draw to much attention to it self, 2x shoebox size roughly - basically a 'lan party build')
Fit 2 M.2 Drives + one 3.5" + 2.5"
Ideally an optical drive but not essential (I write bluray for clients)

Intel 7700k Advantages

Super mature platform
I can have all of what I want above easily with many options
Powerful single core threads
Well specced amazing M-ATX boards

Disadvantages
Only quad core - 8T
I feel the 8T limit now on my current intel - im always doing a lot at once (video, photo editing, my CCTV cameras software is running etc)
Dead end z270 platform

Ryzen Advantages

TONS of threads
Beats out x99
Cheaper
Reasonable single core performance
If mainboard manufacturers can work a miracle and make high speed mem an option (but i doubt that)

Disadvantages
Rubbish M-ATX Options (NO 'x' series yet - when?)
Buggy, needs maturing
Dual channel memory - ok 7700k has that, but 8c 16 thread.....it obviously matters as tiny mem increases massively changes ryzen
Struggles with higher clock speeds
Memory is picky right now

Its literally a knife edge - they are exactly opposite, whats ones strengths is exactly the other weakness.

 

[Ynot]

No probs sir, its REALLY difficult to choose, for reference my wants and wishes from either system:

MUST BE M-ATX (Not ITX, I need 2-3 PCI-E Slots)
Looks really nice

Re: Motherboard,... again I was told/advised to look for a MB that has an M.2 With 4 PCIe lanes dedicated
I was looking at the Asrock Z270 Taichi Intel Z270.

 

[steve258]

So, would you say buy the chip, say R 1700, install it and leave it alone, OC nothing and try and get away with running higher memory?

Thanks.

R7 1700, reasonable B350 motherboard, stock cooler or your existing cooling option, DDR4 3000/3200 mem (from the QVL list). Install these, clock to 3.6-3.8Ghz at modest volt, turn the mem up to 2933/3200 and leave them there. This is the best bang for buck option. Any more than that you are talking marginal gain but BIG spending on cooling and motherboard.

Is my chip any good at 3.9ghz at 1.336v, Been stable for the past 5 days of running it at that playing games and mutitasking, Ran aida64 for abit too, Completey fine. Memorys sitting at 3200mhz too. Not sure where to go from here, Was thinking 4.1 at 1.4v

Tis good, mine needed 1.4v+ just to be bench stable at 3.9

The only issue with B350 boards, is I haven't come across anyone who has got the memory above 2666mhz. But again we are talking marginal gains at 3200mhz.

I'm running RAM at 2933mhz on my gigabyte gaming 3 here. And nemesisuk2 is running his at 3200mhz on the same board. From my own cinebench testing, the performance increase from 2133 to 2933 is equivalent to about 100mhz oc on the main clockspeed.

 

[steve258]

No probs sir, its REALLY difficult to choose, for reference my wants and wishes from either system:

MUST BE M-ATX (Not ITX, I need 2-3 PCI-E Slots)
Looks really nice
Smallest possible M-ATX Case (needs to be 'portable' - in that I can carry it in my car to another office - so small as poss and not draw to much attention to it self, 2x shoebox size roughly - basically a 'lan party build')
Fit 2 M.2 Drives + one 3.5" + 2.5"
Ideally an optical drive but not essential (I write bluray for clients)

Intel 7700k Advantages

Super mature platform
I can have all of what I want above easily with many options
Powerful single core threads
Well specced amazing M-ATX boards

Disadvantages
Only quad core - 8T
I feel the 8T limit now on my current intel - im always doing a lot at once (video, photo editing, my CCTV cameras software is running etc)
Dead end z270 platform

Ryzen Advantages

TONS of threads
Beats out x99
Cheaper
Reasonable single core performance
If mainboard manufacturers can work a miracle and make high speed mem an option (but i doubt that)

Disadvantages
Rubbish M-ATX Options (NO 'x' series yet - when?)
Buggy, needs maturing
Dual channel memory - ok 7700k has that, but 8c 16 thread.....it obviously matters as tiny mem increases massively changes ryzen
Struggles with higher clock speeds
Memory is picky right now

Its literally a knife edge - they are exactly opposite, whats ones strengths is exactly the other weakness.

Well the AM4 plateform will mature and chances are the RAM problem can be avoided with careful selection of hardware (unless you plan on using your existing DDR4). But you can't grow more cores on the 7700K lol. the AB350M Gaming 3 seems to be the only one that's available at the moment that sort of fits your bill. It's either this or the ASUS prime 350m which is even more basic and problematic it seems.

However if the machine is for work and you really can't afford to deal with any potential problem or instability then you should go Intel.

 

[Ynot]

R7 1700, reasonable B350 motherboard, stock cooler or your existing cooling option, DDR4 3000/3200 mem (from the QVL list). Install these, clock to 3.6-3.8Ghz at modest volt, turn the mem up to 2933/3200 and leave them there. This is the best bang for buck option. Any more than that you are talking marginal gain but BIG spending on cooling and motherboar

OK, thank you for the advice.

 

[Deleted member 66701]

What should I be testing? I normally sit and play Battlefield 1, Siege and such while mutitasking on my other displays and such. Never had a BSOD or lock up yet. But that's normally what I use the computer for.

Just carry on using your computer for what you actually need it for. If it doesn't crash in the applications you use, then you're golden. Who cares if it can't pass 8hrs of some bizarre stress test.

For me, RealBench includes all the things I do that I need stability for (image editing, encoding and 3D rendering + all at the same time), so I find that a good tool to dial in my initial ball park overclock.

 

[Ynot]

However if the machine is for work and you really can't afford to deal with any potential problem or instab

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[ozzyo99]

That's a very good point steve258, I need it for work myself and need a stable build.

Bare in mind the URL of the site you're on along with the thread you're commenting on.

Instability is invited when we start tinkering. I've not seen any reports issues from people running stock configuration in day to day use cases.

We're trying to find the limits, you don't have to.

 

[eyetrip]

I do keep getting tempted to see just how far I can push this setup, but I know it's a bit pointless just now.

I'll wait until memory is sorted. If I can't run my memory at around 2933, will probably buy into another set - though I am using 32GB, so won't hit as high as 2 x 8gb sticks.

Actually, I do get tempted to just get 64Gb 2400Mhz and be done for a few years.

 

[Ynot]

Bare in mind the URL of the site you're on along with the thread you're commenting on.

OK Thanks. (didn't think)

 

[Awahwah]

Finally got my RAM to run a 2933, it's like magic. Team Group Vulcan's for those who are interested. Now to get the Core stable at 3.8Ghz, it's taking a lot of volts to just load Windows, so possible that I lost the lottery with this Chip (1.35v to get to desktop).