Something went wrong, ordered a Mustang, yet ended up in a British hotrod, I blame OcUK!

No problem mate.

Just had a re-read, a lesson in writing an advert and what a lovely machine it was - can’t believe it’s over 3years since you moved it on!

Very much looking forward to whatever replaces the SVR, a very tough act to follow. :cool:


Yeah indeed, the SVR is probably the best all round daily supercar available simply because of the traction but also how rear biased it is and all the mod cons and features. Stuff like remote start, heated front screen, heated wheel, rear biased AWD that oversteers on demand in supercar world is very rare. A Huracan does not even have cup holders for example so it will be a hard act to follow and if it turns out to be unbeatable can always return to one.
 
Well I am shocked!

Due to some issues with the finance regarding overpayments been miss-sold to me on the SVR, not gonna put names, but in short over payment options were some what limited, which may legally not be legal, but am not willing to go into finer details because the broker has offered me such an incredible deal on what I buy next its too hard to refuse. So in short on the SVR my only option to save the most interest was to settle in full, which a few months ago was not possible hence wanting to just over pay and reduce balloon by 20k, fortunately I am now just settling in full as have managed to save up enough to do so.

Simply put with such a large deposit (70k), which leaves spare cash in my bank, 67k balloon, 2yr term on a 150k car and my monthly will be under £400, which is incredible as I budgeted 1k per month. He has said he plans to further improve that, but thats under 5% APR, around 2.4% base rate, but he is looking to do better and this is a new lender who will allow me to make any kind of over payment I wish upto 8k per year with zero charge, so I can reduce final balloon, term or monthly payment, if I pay more than 8k per year there is an admin fee of £150, nothing drastic but way more flexible which is what I want. That is important to me as I will likely pay the car off in full and own it, rather than hand it back or re-finance it, just like I did with SVR, albeit with less options.

So test drives pending, getting into something 150k with a large deposit is very easy, shocked how easy and when it comes to the end of the term the same company is flexible, sell privately, pay them the balloon, sell back to dealer and they settle it, or re-finance the balloon, again they offer that too or just settle it. With over payments I feel I can reduce that balloon to 40k within two years anyway at which point a 25k bank loan and 15k savings would have it owned outright and a solid 110-140k for next purchase in the bank plus savings.

Am also getting the numbers run on a Performante as thats the dream car. ;)

Of course I need to drive them, they did however say they won't do such a deal on a Mclaren, they said they simply cannot guarantee future values, they said on a Ferrari or Lamborghini NA car, they are very happy to guarantee future values especially if buying after March/April this year, new reg, brexit etc. and said buy aggressive and depreciation should be minimal, but to avoid Mclaren as they expect huge depreciation, which is kind of general feeling, still going to drive the 570S just in case it blows my mind.

But at this budget (150k), that is 991.2 GT3, 991.1 GT3 RS, Huracan, 458, I am kind of ruling out 458 due to age, but shall drive anyway just in case its phenomenal.

Wild card if numbers come back good is 200k and get a Performante, reckon I can get in one for 180-200k if I wait a month or two. Can't see them ever getting cheaper than and some reckon they will go north in a couple of years been last NA Lambo, but of course rumours of another last run crazy Huracan coming so a little uncertainty there, but the man maths potentially say yes, warranty until 2022 and probably little to no depreciation and a chance of profits. Guess its down to risk factor, Huracan 610-4 for 135-155k and guaranteed to lose 10-20k in depreciation or a Performante at 185-205k and maybe lose 20-30k or make 30-100k and longer warranty so less expense. Though I guess Lambo charge more to service a Performante even though its same as regular Huracan servicing wise.

Shall ask, GT3 drives better than Huracan, Huracan more an event, but Performante drives as well as GT3 I suspect.

He said with a large deposit it really opens up the world to what you can get into for a relatively small monthly payment and needless to say I am shocked, as was budgeting £800-£1200 monthly.
Early days need to drive them more on track and on road before making a decision and it will be driven daily, but the deal is 6000 miles, I tend to do 7000-8000 so I'd have to drive M3/Clio a little more or pay the fee or get the numbers re-done for 8k per year.
 
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Performante is just a car that cant be beat for the money, it ticks all the boxes. Mind blowing performance, looks, soundtrack, will have massively strong residuals even in this market.
 
If you are thinking of buying a Perfomante then contact Gravelwood Car sales, the guy that owns it Tony has got one and I believe wants to sell it soon and in my opinion it's the best spec Performante I have seen also it's just been serviced at Lamborghini Tunbridge Wells, his instagram is @tonygravelwoodcarsales
 
Sounds like your heart is set on the Performante. Hard to overrule the heart with the head if you can make the numbers work!


I am kind of thinking like this, going SVR instead of regular R was right decision.


Regular Huracan I really love:

https://www.pistonheads.com/classif...rghini-huracan-coupe-lp-610-4-2dr-ldf/9090984

https://www.pistonheads.com/classif...rghini-huracan-coupe-lp-610-4-2dr-ldf/9368625




Something like this is the dream:

https://www.pistonheads.com/classif...-huracan-lp-640-4-performante-2dr-ldf/9171885

https://www.pistonheads.com/classif...0-4-with-comfort-seats--deposit-taken/9358593




The green Huracan I've been offered at 142k, 5k off already, reckon could secure a deal for under 140k, brings final balloon down to 60k and more interest saved, car comes with 12 months warranty from Lamborghini and can be extended for around £3500 per year, annual service is £2300 discount is possible. Around £385 per month, 2yr value based on 25-30k miles as I will use daily at 110k worse, 130k best, so 10-20k depreciation, easy to soak up.

If I can get into a Performante at 200k, need to run numbers, but can put upto 100k in as deposit, so should be well within monthly budget, the questions is the 2-3yr value with 20-30k on the clock, maybe worse case 160k, best case maybe 300k if they rocket in value like some think they will. Advantage they are newer, better and manufacturer warranty until 2022-2023 so that is circa 7-10k saved in warranty costings, yep full on man maths. Servicing unknown, should be same as Huracan but I am sure Lamborghini charge more been the special edition.


Can't do a Mclaren, I simply cannot stomach to lose 30-50k which is highly likely due to amount of cars released, sold and poor after support and poor reliability, I reckon I could get into a 570S MSO now for around 110k at a push, but I feel in 2yr said car with 30k miles would be worth 70-80k as I just don't see them holding value, they seem to lose a grand or two on a weekly basis at moment.

Ferrari 458 safe buy value wise, but warranty does not cover many things and idea of dampers at £5000 per pair, clutch at £20,000 and other servicing/warranty cost its more of putting, affordable but off putting, plus its an older car.

GT3 is the wild card, can easily get into a 991.2 GT3 or even a 991.1 GT3 RS, you all know how I love these things and they drive better than all the above except maybe Performante, most reliable, cheapest to service/warranty and the best steer. Downsides just not got the special factor of a Mclaren let alone a Lambo!
 
Just go with what’s right for you, none are comparable to the SVR in all honesty so try to ignore it as a comparison, your comparing a yacht to a fishing boat, or 5 Series to a Roller, not the same ballpark.

The SVR was (is?) unique, the others equally so in their own fields...

Whatever, I don’t envy you, nope, not at all.... Ahem. :o :D

BTW, check FB messenger please mate, I’ve got a nephew sweating on your verdict.... ;)
 
Performante it is then. That Orange one looks immense.

Yep green and yellow are favourites, orange also, do prefer silver or gold wheels though, not so keen on black and also prefer chrome exhaust tips, I am just not keen on this fad of black exhaust and black wheels.

If I go normal Huracan ideally I want to hold out for a 610-4 without LDS and ideally passive dampers, but really need to try and avoid LDS (Lamborghini Dynamic Steering, OK on newer cars, not good on older ones). Also must have alarm, cameras etc.

Performante don't care, base spec is fine, as long as its got basics like alarm and cameras as LDS and Mag ride was perfected on Performante and they come with it standard I believe along with all the forged carbon goodies.

Oh and front lift crucial but I've not seen a Huracan without that! :)

Would maybe consider a 580-2 but in a daily feel 610-4 is a far better bet. :)
 
Yep green and yellow are favourites, orange also, do prefer silver or gold wheels though, not so keen on black and also prefer chrome exhaust tips, I am just not keen on this fad of black exhaust and black wheels.

If I go normal Huracan ideally I want to hold out for a 610-4 without LDS and ideally passive dampers, but really need to try and avoid LDS (Lamborghini Dynamic Steering, OK on newer cars, not good on older ones). Also must have alarm, cameras etc.

Performante don't care, base spec is fine, as long as its got basics like alarm and cameras as LDS and Mag ride was perfected on Performante and they come with it standard I believe along with all the forged carbon goodies.

Oh and front lift crucial but I've not seen a Huracan without that! :)

Would maybe consider a 580-2 but in a daily feel 610-4 is a far better bet. :)

What about this colour? (Ignore the youtube clickbait)
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What about this colour? (Ignore the youtube clickbait)
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Really don't like that I am afraid, British racing green by looks of it, of course its not ugly just not for me, its a Lambo needs be bright.

The only other colours I'd consider that are not bright green, orange or yellow would maybe be blue (rather not do blue, own two blue cars) or purple like this one at Amari:

https://www.amarisupercars.com/deta...640-4-performante-2dr-semi-automatic#Amari-TV



Still I am not set on a Performante yet, for a couple of reasons, first of all the numbers and second future values, if it lost 50k for example that would hurt so need to try and protect myself, I'd never be in negative equity because of deposit size but at same time I'd rather limit my depreciation to a maximum of 15k per year if possible and its a bit more of a gamble with Performante, but there is the gamble I could also make money too, higher risk but also chance of a profit.

I need to wait for final numbers:
But Performante at 200k:
70k down
25 month term at around £900 a month
Final payment 121k

or
90k down
25 month term at around £550 a month
105k final payment.


Rough numbers, easily achieved monthly, doubt I can raise 100k in two years though, so if car was worth say 150k, I'd hand car back, get 50k or there abouts, decide to keep car, re-finance 100k or if car happens to explode and worth 300k, either hand it back and be given around 150-200k for priviledge.


The Performante is all about future value really, do I want to take risk, whereas regular Huracan I can afford to cover the final balloon and own the car if I desire, whereas Performante would be a hand it back and either worse case get 50k back or best case 150-200k back.
 
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A Huracan does not even have cup holders for example so it will be a hard act to follow and if it turns out to be unbeatable can always return to one.

It’s an optional extra. Looks hideous though, complete after thought.

I’m not really sure about these figures. Does it mean you are basically only paying interest on the borrowed amount for two years, given the relatively low monthly payments?

*Also waiting for the ocuk motors brigade to come in and talk finance*
 
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It’s an optional extra. Looks hideous though, complete after thought.

Is it something you can add later easily via maybe Lamborghini accessories?

Oracle just did me quite a competitive quote too using more traditional PCP but allowing for more than 40% deposit and not just interest balance payments as offered previous.

Though in the end the all seem to come to same result for final/overall/total cost.
 
Performante 100%, Yes the Porsche is very hard to beat but it's lambo..

Yep just don't want to lose a fortune, done well with SVR, less than 10k depreciation in just over a year all been well.
Probably similar on a Huracan in right spec, age and right price.

Performante is a big unknown, do I take that risk.........
 
Say what you like, you can't beat a Lamborghini. Am I allowed to come to OCUK for a test ride in it... :p


Of course.
Its not a set decision yet, I tend to buy cars for how they make me feel when I drive them, the Lambo will make me grin, laugh and smile the most I suspect, GT3 will impress me the most I suspect.

Just need to not rush, drive a few options, see where market heads and buy, the finances are certainly better than suspected. :)
 
Great :p and yes, you never know until you drive them.




Annoying as he can be, his face says it all, EVO seems pretty damn epic, that sport mode with all that tail out seems fun, even the RWD one I drove was not doing that.

Maybe get regular Huracan, then upgrade to an EVO after they've depreciated as think they are 206k base brand new, 230k with right options, of course EVO might hammer Performante values......
 
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