so what was in the video, what would you call that?
sonic weapons used in G20 protest
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so what was in the video, what would you call that?
*sigh*
Quite a few misconceptions people seem to be suffering from.
Do you think the permit is a permission slip from the authorities? Or do you think fore-knowledge of the protest place/time etc helps the authorities make plans so as to make the protest go as smooth as possible (e.g. traffic wise) The authorities do have to think of other people in the community as well as those protesting you know
Unfortunately the G20 protest reputation has preceded themselves so the police have to be prepared for the worst. Hope for the best but prepare for the worst. Ergo the riot gear.
Also seemed to me from those videos that quite a few of the protesters were initiating violence and causing criminal damage.
What would you have the authorities do? Just let protests run amok through city centres creating chaos, attacking people, banks and other institutions?
There is a bigger picture that the protestors have to consider. Also with regards to the tactic of removing protesters who are inciting violence i say well done to the police. You see the authorities DO want to preserve our right to protest but often people hijack initially peaceful protests for their own violent and personal agenda. Removal of the violent elements allows those peacably protesting to do so.
just like the protests in teh uk, were the police used violence on protestors etc... the tactics used are there to increase violence not reduce it.
if they were to wrongly deny a protest application, then there are channels through which it can be sorted.
the fact they allow the BNP etc to protest, as well as the huge protests against the war show they arent stopping anyone.
and yes, a permit is a way of saying what can and cant be done, if it wasnt it would negate the point.
a loud car alarm, as pointed out before.
the first video, please point out one of the many passers by who actually looked affected by it.
i didnt see people running for the hills covering their ears in pain.
and the second one, the reporter is drowned out by it, yet otherwise is unaffected.
The first anti war protests were denied in this country, it was accepted when some main stream politicians actors got involved.
then as mentioned in the post you quoted, it was sorted.
yes they did, and there are many types of sonic sounds, does it have to burst your ear drums, or can it just be just annoying.
and here is a definition
sonic
adj
of, involving, or producing sound,
Latin sonus sound
If thats the case then we dont live in democratic system.
Ahh so you are talking in general or about another specific case where the police did something that was not to your liking?
If it is the latter, put forward your argument and i'll listen to it.
If it is the former then all you are promoting is hearsay, slander, scaremongering, stirring up discontent for your own personal agenda.
Present your argument on a point by point basis in which the evidence is damning so we can all see what you can see
Is their microwave gun a weapon if all it does is produce a burning sensation on the skin which makes one want to flee from the pain? Is is torture or an acceptable means of control?
Same with this sonic gun but to a lesser extent, is causing discomfort and possible eardrum damage acceptable? Notice how we see more and more pushing and prodding from governments, more rights removed or altered, more surveillance, more control, more tactics and tech popping up like tasers and sonic guns, you just have to watch the news to see the trends that are going on, it does all seem to add up to something questionable.
Same with this sonic gun but to a lesser extent, is causing discomfort and possible eardrum damage acceptable? Notice how we see more and more pushing and prodding from governments, more rights removed or altered, more surveillance, more control, more tactics and tech popping up like tasers and sonic guns, you just have to watch the news to see the trends that are going on, it does all seem to add up to something questionable.
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A proper riot
Its almost hard to tell whos actually rioting in that vid given the police tossing bricks etc at the protesters. Cops actually seemed pretty reluctant to do much for most of it till they got on both sides of the gas bottle man, im suprised his flames lasted as long as they did.
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mattheman, how do you not fall down more?!?!
I've been drinking with some South Korean riot police. They're awesome guys.