I would be looking at going to another store.
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I would be looking at going to another store.
this was in Purwells, lets hope you're right, the best place would be Sony Centre Southampton, it's definitely worth another look
Absolutely agree. Currys/PC World will have a terrible setup. John Lewis is quite a bit better and they have some viewing rooms. The best places will be smaller shops like Sony stores, Richer Sounds or other specialist/independent stores, who nearly always have things set up properly. They will let you adjust things or you can book a proper viewing.
so if your LED looks like the top imageplease post in.
Mine does. It's a Sony W905, and it has a brilliant picture, and that's a TV that was phased out in Spring 2014. There are good LEDs out there, but you need to do some research and read some reviews before seeing them in person so you know what to be looking for.
Yup, I also have the W905. The picture is amazing on it. I think the reviews were poor on its successor as they changed the panel for the high end. The middle range got better reviews last year with many saying it should have been the top end. Always read many many reviews. Something I'll be doing in a few weeks when the new HD TV's make an appearance.
The only thing you have to look out for in the reviews is that the successor to the 905 got poor reviews, and then after a few firmware updates, it was much, much better, but very few reviews were updated. So reviews on launch may not give you the full picture a couple of months down the line.
That I did not know. I didn't realise a firmware update would have any effect on the panel and image. Good to remember for the future I guess.
Presumably they fixed stuff in the post processing/decoding/whatever. Maybe they just changed the default settings. When I was setting up my 905, I noticed that the features that made the SD content look better made the HD content look worse, and vice versa. Things that help an upscaled image actually lose detail from a HD image. It's subtle but noticeable, especially if you've got a Tivo or Sky box that chucks everything out at a standard resolution no matter what the content is.
Yeah that makes sense. If the new TV's were on a par with my W905, Then I would go out and get one on release day probably. I think they are using the same type of panels from snippets I've read so hopefully a good start. All will be revealed soon enough.
All the TV will be used for is movies and gaming.
that's brilliant thanks, yea something tells me that because they all look equally bad that it's because they're not set up right, the priority is to visit Sony centre next wek ( this weekend i'm working)
so what's the latest version of this tv............because it looks like this :-
http://www.sony.co.uk/buy/x8500c-series?sku=KD65X8507CSU
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When I was shopping for it, I did find the places that got my TV to look the best were the Sony Centres. They set them up right and played flattering content on them. Bear in mind that a lot of that flattering content is very static. Lots of movement and panning shows the limitations of the post-processing in a TV. Static or slow-moving pictures show the TV at its best, especially if you are selling UHD. Also try and see it from the distance you will be watching it at home. Image errors that you can see at one metre will be totally invisible at 2-3 metres.
I threw together some snaps for you. You'll have to excuse the light strips in the top right, those are reflections from my window/curtains (hence me moving over to one side of the TV). Obviously you'll loose quality from the camera, compression, etc but it should give you an idea. These are 1080P stills from a Sony W905 which is only a HDTV (not 4K).
It's also worth mentioning as you're looking at TVs in shops that it doesn't matter how good the TV is, that it's all down to the content. Sometimes things look weird just because they are shot that way (such as the stylised colour in "300", the grey post processing in "Man Of Steel" or the green cast whenever Neo is in "The Matrix"). Sometimes it's not the TV, it's the way the content has been shot and the TV is actually reproducing it.
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thanks a lot they look very good i'm in a better mood now, ok so i'll wait till monday, i'm still interested in the 75'' 1080p version or a 65'' 4K...
if the W85C 1080p only version looks good i'll buy it straight away, because it's very good value for money for such a massive screen.
that's my ST 55'' great tv
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I've not even had my 905 calibrated. I just found some settings on AV Forums and then tweaked them a bit to my liking. There are good LCDs to be had, and you have to make an effort to understand how they work to get the best out of them - something most of the shops out there seem not to understand.
I even saw the 905 criticised in a review for having so many features and options that it was too daunting for the average person.
It's really worth being a little patient and doing the research. If you're going to spend a lot of money on a TV and you want to enjoy it for a few years, you want to make sure you get something good that you will be happy with. And don't run any software that's designed to find panel faults and other problems that can't be unseen. If all the pixels work and you don't have backlight bleed, be happy and enjoy it. Don't go looking for corner case problems that will drive you nuts.
I can genuinely say I still enjoy my 905 after a year of ownership, and I find myself watching things just because it looks so damn good. It's a real pleasure every time I turn it on, and that's how it should be.
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I 100% agree with all of this. Very well put!
yea Steampunk's a good lad
i cant view till monday because i work all weekend, now your tv is going cheap in Currys right now.......the 4k version but it's too small, it has to be over 65'' or i may as well keep the Panny.......Currys are selling stuff off dead cheap right now but only ``in store``, so this will deffo be 65'' or less............but a 65'' Sammy flat 4k is deffo worth having, because their 4Ks are brilliant.
i cant view till monday because i work all weekend, now your tv is going cheap in Currys right now.......the 4k version but it's too small, it has to be over 65'' or i may as well keep the Panny.......Currys are selling stuff off dead cheap right now but only ``in store``, so this will deffo be 65'' or less............but a 65'' Sammy flat 4k is deffo worth having, because their 4Ks are brilliant.
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yes i'm like that with my Panny, it's brilliant, unfortunately your LED in Purwells looks utter rubbish....... but thanks to you i know better now,
http://www.currys.co.uk/gbuk/tv-dvd...ultra-hd-4k-75-led-tv-10121363-pdt.html#cat-0
that is the brand new 75'' 4k LED from Sony.... now according to Sony U.K that isn't available....... it's expensive but still miles cheaper than the Sammy SUHD 78'' at almost 10 grand, decisions decisions
if the 1080p 75'' Sony looks really nice and sharp then this is better value for money...................but a 75'' 4K at 10ft away will look utterly stunning, especially playing Wolfenstein
http://www.electricaldiscountuk.co....1_1431196907_aedc582e90bb280f537329ebf60a8d8f
this is a thousand quid cheaper than the Sony 65'' and is a damned good tv, the 75'' is also much cheaper than the Sony
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i just took a look at Netflix, there's no 4K content to watch at all, so why are we buying 4K tvs because you'd need at least 100 films before it's worth buying..........so a 4K tv is for gaming only and it wont look any better at 10 ft away than 1080p
i'm a bit surprised about this, i never knew 4K content was this low, well this changes everything because it looks like 1080p only and the best damned tv you can get your hands on.
i'm a bit surprised about this, i never knew 4K content was this low, well this changes everything because it looks like 1080p only and the best damned tv you can get your hands on.
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Mal, you are a very emotional fellow aren't you? 
Nice to see someone so passionate at least 
The way I see it, personally, I adopted 1080p early on, I plan to do the same with 4K.
Fact is, from what I've seen with my own eyes, I think upscaled 1080p->4K looks damn good and wouldn't even consider buying a 1080p TV. 4K will be along in time, until then on a 65" screen I expect sub-HD to look terrible, 720p adequate to good and 1080p very good. 4K will soon come along and be terrific.
It really depends on your most watched sources? I'd say mine are 10% sub-HD TV, 30% HDTV, 20% 1080p gaming, 40% 1080p web/Bluray MKV.
Nice to see someone so passionate at least The way I see it, personally, I adopted 1080p early on, I plan to do the same with 4K.
Fact is, from what I've seen with my own eyes, I think upscaled 1080p->4K looks damn good and wouldn't even consider buying a 1080p TV. 4K will be along in time, until then on a 65" screen I expect sub-HD to look terrible, 720p adequate to good and 1080p very good. 4K will soon come along and be terrific.
It really depends on your most watched sources? I'd say mine are 10% sub-HD TV, 30% HDTV, 20% 1080p gaming, 40% 1080p web/Bluray MKV.