Sony Xperia 1 II - A return to form for Sony?

Yep, agree. Two of Sony's biggest problems have been camera quality and price. We'll have to wait and see about the former, but can't see the latter being any better than in the past unfortunately. Maybe they will throw in some goodies to sweeten the deal.

Deals are always about. I got the Xperia 1 on the "free" PS4 deal last year via Vodafone. 50GB data, usual unlimited text calls, PS4 included, £36 a month, no up front charge. Obviously wasn't an advertised deal, but if you're a long term customer you'd be surprised at some of the deals they'll offer if you're at the end of your contract.
 
Don't Sony make a number of the sensors in modern smart phones? Seems odd they still miss the mark. And yeah a 4,000 mAh on that I don't trust lasting long.
Yep but their post processing has always been hit and miss.

I read something quite a while back that suggested that their divisions don’t seem to work together
 
Wait, so they're trying to charge this device as much as the S20 Ultra nearly? That's going to be a hard sell, even if they throw in a PS4 or whatnot else along with it.

What price have you heard? What I read in phonearena said the old model was $999 but they don't know the price of the Mk2

With phone pricing every would-be premium manufacturer is now obliged to charge a thousand quid or thereabouts.

It's like when they introduced the university fees, with every institution allowed to charge "up to" 9000 quid. Of course they all charged 9 grand because no university wanted to be seen as having cheaper, "inferior" courses compared to the others.

The same happens in the world of phones. Apple led the charge to £1000+ handsets and every other manufacturer followed suit.
 
Regarding pricing....
The Sony Xperia 1 II will come out in the second quarter of this year in Black and Purple. The full retail price is €1,200. Note that there’s no 4G version, only 5G, and only one memory configuration – 8/256GB (expandable with microSD cards).
 
to be fair I dont think anyone paid "list" for the Xperia 1. Sony would be mad not to offer massive discounts/incentives on this model as well, especially as the "last gen" was hardly a smashing success. Probably have to be better than a PS4 since thats basically an EOL product. Those wireless ear buds they released recently would be a good one.

(secretly I wouldn't mind some hilarious trade up program)
 
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It has some kind of blur reduction that is equivalent to 90hz. Apparently.
Delusional Sony tactics as usual. They always seem to shoot themselves in the foot.

Make the battery a little a bigger, use QHD+ 90hz. And ensure camera is up to par, keep the software upto date. The rest seems good.
 
to be fair I dont think anyone paid "list" for the Xperia 1. Sony would be mad not to offer massive discounts/incentives on this model as well, especially as the "last gen" was hardly a smashing success. Probably have to be better than a PS4 since thats basically an EOL product. Those wireless ear buds they released recently would be a good one.

(secretly I wouldn't mind some hilarious trade up program)

The offers were vendor specific last time, some networks got a PS4, some networks got wireless headphones.
 
exactly, where are the alternatives and why aren’t there any? The market is severely lacking in competition.

That's like saying "another laptop with Windows. Boring!". How exactly do you magic up a new operating system in an incredibly saturated and deep-rooted market with decades of development behind it? I would hazard to say that creating a brand new OS, and hoping it to gain any sort of significant traction in today's market is near impossible, outside of having some outlier factor like being a Chinese company and having access to billions of potential adopters, but even then, you face the challenge of getting the rest of the global market adopting it too.

And the most important factor to mobile OS growth is app development and support. What would entice an app developer to develop for new OS XYZ, when they could just develop for Android/iOS? This is exactly why Windows's mobile OS died.
 
That's like saying "another laptop with Windows. Boring!". How exactly do you magic up a new operating system in an incredibly saturated and deep-rooted market with decades of development behind it? I would hazard to say that creating a brand new OS, and hoping it to gain any sort of significant traction in today's market is near impossible, outside of having some outlier factor like being a Chinese company and having access to billions of potential adopters, but even then, you face the challenge of getting the rest of the global market adopting it too.

And the most important factor to mobile OS growth is app development and support. What would entice an app developer to develop for new OS XYZ, when they could just develop for Android/iOS? This is exactly why Windows's mobile OS died.

This is precisely why the market is broken. Too many things stacked against something new happening.
 
And the most important factor to mobile OS growth is app development and support. What would entice an app developer to develop for new OS XYZ, when they could just develop for Android/iOS? This is exactly why Windows's mobile OS died.

Well, the head of Microsoft was dilly-dallying all over the mobile division too, so that didn't help either. Might not have been exactly as it is now if they actually bothered to back it properly, but they didn't.
 
I really like the Xperia 10 II! I love the design, looks very slick.
Seems like a very solid mid ranger.

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Why do Sony announce phones with no release date? If its anything like usual its still at least 2-3 months away, which is pointless...They should have announced it close to the release dates.
 
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I love the phone but the screen from factor is not great, too narrow and tall. Its like a TV remote controller( slight exaggerations but you get my point)

I hope they release a 5 version, a slightly smaller phone or mini version.
 
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