Southport stabbings

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Begbie said:
Just like me going to Japan, getting a passport doesn't make me Japanese.
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That’s a bit different though isn’t it?

He was born here and his parents could have lived here for years before that.

I don’t know where you draw the line on someone being British if that doesn’t count. How are you going to monitor people on if they’re following the right number of British values to be considered British?
 
Orangeade said:
Don't get me wrong Switzerland isn't nearly strict enough in my opinion but even so we still have knives and guns because we keep some form of order. We are proudly multicultural but we expect a certain calibre and behaviour of people.
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It's not only the people we let in anymore like it once was decades ago.

Ordinary folk raised here are doing it of all skin colours and religions.


Also I lived in Winterthur, Switzerland has many migrants, your train stations and city centre parks usually have a group of India/Pakistani looking men hanging around drinking and listening to music..

Your countries just a hell of a lot safer and the police do turn up... even for minor things like noise complaints.

our's you never see them anymore
 
It's clearly mostly social media's fault which unfortunately the government's response is some garbage overarching legislation that protects tech monopolies and ruins everyone's right to be informed.
 
Begbie said:
I knew that'd get jumped on, my point is it's not as simple as someone is British because you are born somewhere.

I have never met this man, nor know his motives. But I don't think it's quite as simple as born in x then I'm x.
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Whether you consider him British or not, do you actually think his background has an influence on whether he decides to massacre children or not? I mean there can be hateful groups of people, but typically most cultures don't consider child murder to be ethical or moral, Israeli's and other people committing genocides aside. Rwanda did have a genocide in the 90s though, so does this contribute to his behaviour?

But what about DRUGS???? People point to religion, ethnicity and such but could mind altering drugs made him do something this none sensical? I do and say stupid things when I get drunk, it's why I've got banned from Speakers Corner. There's other drugs that mess with your mind more so though
 
ANDREW GREEN said:
So you're a fan of the woman beating, rapist, sex trafficking, self proclaimed pimp I take it?
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With the greatest of respect, you really don’t come across as very bright sometimes.
I posted “peak Tate” because everyone knows he’s an absolute lunatic.
That was the point of the post, but unfortunately that point was cruising at 70,000 feet over your head.
Everyone else managed to get it, just not you.
 
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