Southport stabbings

[Werewolf]

how long has this law been around? Where you can’t publish minors name if they commit a offence? Obviously Jon venables and Robert Thompson names got published in the press quickly with mug shots etc in the 90s when they murdered James bulger.

Society is totally messed up now , the damage over the past 10-15 years is irreversible

It's been around a very long time, IIRC a minimum of something like 30+ years.

Venables and Thompson's names were released specifically because of the serious nature of their crimes after a court ruled it was in the public interest, it's not in the public interest to name every under 18 year old criminal's name so the law states they don't by default.

This is nothing new, and the chances are if the person in question is 17 then at some point their name will be officially released given the nature of this crime but at the moment the standard under 18 rule is likely to apply.

 

[Begbie]

how long has this law been around? Where you can’t publish minors name if they commit a offence? Obviously Jon venables and Robert Thompson names got published in the press quickly with mug shots etc in the 90s when they murdered James bulger.

Society is totally messed up now , the damage over the past 10-15 years is irreversible

It's quite hard to hide it forever, especially with photos etc.

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Unsure how true this is. Seems strange it was posted to LinkedIn though?

 

[Roughneck]

I think they need somebody other than Evette Cooper as Home Sectary, First her mishandling of the Manchester Airport incident, and now this. Let's get somebody who's not worried about Islamophobia wokeism and all the other rubbish, and start protecting the tax paying citizens (and there children) of this country.

 

[arknor]

This thread will go one of two ways, depending on where the attacker is from.

not really just means the motives likely different

 

[CaptainRAVE]

Just can’t imagine what those parents are going through right now. Multiple kids still fighting for their life

 

[FishThrower]

Just can’t imagine what those parents are going through right now. Multiple kids still fighting for their life

Whole thing is awful… every parents worse nightmare. The teachers or the people taking the dance class will be mentally scarred for life.

 

[potatolord]

It's been around a very long time, IIRC a minimum of something like 30+ years.

Venables and Thompson's names were released specifically because of the serious nature of their crimes after a court ruled it was in the public interest, it's not in the public interest to name every under 18 year old criminal's name so the law states they don't by default.

This is nothing new, and the chances are if the person in question is 17 then at some point their name will be officially released given the nature of this crime but at the moment the standard under 18 rule is likely to apply.

Occasionally under 18s names are released.

The killers of Brianna Ghey were named earlier this year, for example.

 

[mattyg]

His name will come out locally pretty quickly. Banks is a very small community. There are local jokes about having to live there for 20 years before the locals will acknowledge you.. Its not true but he will be known.

 

[Nuttah]

Report in the Telegraph - no idea how reliable it is these days mind....

"The youth, who cannot be named for legal reasons and is originally from Cardiff, moved to the Southport area with his Rwandan parents when he was aged six."

 

[Kelt]

Utter scum-sucking spunkbubble of a (non) human being.

Attacking primary school children with a knife, ******* coward.

 

[BUDFORCE]

Just tie them up to a post and shoot them.

A round from a decent calibre rifle costs about £1, at least then no public money is wasted.

Let the body rot.

 

[Werewolf]

Occasionally under 18s names are released.

The killers of Brianna Ghey were named earlier this year, for example.

Yes, Occasionally. When a court has agreed they can be named.

The default in the law is not to name them except in special cases and it's usually decided by a judge.

 

[CaptainRAVE]

Utter scum-sucking spunkbubble of a (non) human being.

Attacking primary school children with a knife, ******* coward.

He won’t last long in prison if he’s even allowed with the general population. They don’t like child killers.

 

[bloodiedathame]

No, these things wouldn't happen if we didn't let people in.

Possibly the stupidest thing I've ever read on this forum. Congrats.

 

[robgmun]

This thread will go one of two ways, depending on where the attacker is from.

Never mind the victims.

Either way, he should never see daylight again, I'm usually against the death penalty, but times like this, I'd look the other way if someone wants to take care of things.

There's a fog of conflicting reports going around, but there are a lot of reports of a very untypically British name floating about. If that's the case, then I have sympathy with the growing consensus, but frankly, I was saying it since the Manchester Arena Attacks and everyone ignored the problem.

 

[SkodaMart]

Possibly the stupidest thing I've ever read on this forum. Congrats.

Likewise.

You can ignore reality for as long as you like, but you can’t ignore the effects of ignoring reality - konstantin kisin

 

[potatolord]

Many people on Tiktok are saying the terrorists name is Ali Shakiti...

I'm unsure where they got this name from, however it definitely doesn't sound like a Welsh name, nevermind Cardiff

I'm from Cardiff.

There's loads of Alis, I've known a few.

 

[Ayahuasca]

Are they all taxi drivers, or run kebab shops?

Whose second account is this then?

 

[bloodiedathame]

Likewise.

You can ignore reality for as long as you like, but you can’t ignore the effects of ignoring reality - konstantin kisin

There have been plenty of British born murderers, paedophiles and rapists... StOPpInG ThE BoAtS doesn't change that.

 

[Colonel_Klinck]

A better argument for the ‘he shouldn’t even have been in this country penalty’

Easier to stop it that way.
Like the Rwanda plan - utter nonsense, stop the boats and control immigration now.
Not tomorrow, not next week.

We are sending people born in Wales to Rwanda now are we? Did he cross from Wales to Merseyside in a boat? Bit silly really he could have just driven.

No surprise to see people immediately reading Twitter and jumping on the "it was an illegal immigrant" train. Its almost like people are desperate for it to be an immigrant.

Feel for the poor families having to deal with this tonight and the years to come.