Spanish Grand Prix 2010, Circuit de Catalunya - Race 5/19

Amazing really. How does a company like renault make faster engines than a company like ferrari who specialise in supercars and fast engines. Is it just because they have more money for better engine development?

Renault have been making racing engines for years in all forms of motorsports. Renault were the engines everyone wanted for near enough all of the 90's. Problem being they had the engine freeze and iirc renault and honda were allowed to update their engine to make it the same as the others.

I actually think both the merc and ferrari engines are better actually. It's just down to the fact that newey is the god of F1 car design and he has made another FW14B.
 
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I hate to say this but, you actually spout more **** than Sunama at times.:rolleyes:


Well you best go and tell your dedicated Bridgestone engineer that was on the BBC and said that ;)

"Bridgestone's technical manager Hirohide Hamashima spoke post-qualifying in China"


"Of the top cars, the Red Bull was taking the most out of its tyres, the Ferrari was by far the kindest. One McLaren - Jenson Button's - was almost as good as the Ferrari in its tyre usage; Lewis Hamilton's car was almost as bad as the Red Bulls."

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/motorsport/formula_one/8629477.stm

So who is talking **** now you or Hirohide Hamashima :D
 
Fantastic find, i will even use that myself


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Red Bull vulnerable to Button and Ferrari at Spanish GP

Chinese Grand Prix in 90 seconds
By Mark Hughes
BBC F1 commentary box producer

Red Bull were soundly beaten by the weather at the Chinese Grand Prix after dominating qualifying. Yet there was evidence they would not have won even if the Shanghai race had been dry.

When both Sebastian Vettel and Mark Webber pitted prematurely for a rain shower that quickly passed, Red Bull's chances on Sunday were scuppered.

That set the stage for Jenson Button's victory. In a dry race, the chances are it would have been Fernando Alonso's Ferrari that beat the Red Bulls - and the reasons why make the Spaniard a strong contender for victory at the next race in Spain.

Bridgestone's technical manager Hirohide Hamashima spoke post-qualifying in China about the big variation in tyre usage he was seeing between different cars - and between team-mates in the same cars.

The Shanghai circuit - with its middle sector of long-duration fast sweeps coming soon after the tyres have already been punished by the never-ending grind of Turns One-Two-Three, flat in top on entry, constantly slowing and turning until down to second gear - is the biggest tyre killer of the four tracks visited so far.

Differences in how various cars and drivers use their rubber are exaggerated here. These patterns will be a good indicator, too, for how things might stack up in Barcelona - a track which, if anything, is even tougher for the tyres.

Closing laps were tricky - Button

Of the top cars, the Red Bull was taking the most out of its tyres, the Ferrari was by far the kindest. One McLaren - Jenson Button's - was almost as good as the Ferrari in its tyre usage; Lewis Hamilton's car was almost as bad as the Red Bulls.

Oh suprise, suprise the Mclaren of LH was almost as bad. Not managed to find the 3 seconds a lap bit that you seem to have plucked out of the air but, i will keep looking.
 
I agree its not very exciting for the armchair viewers but, we just want to get a job done.

Absolutely. If it was me, I would want my cars to be 5s/lap faster than the rest of the field.

Unfortunately though, if you are not a RedBull/Webber/Vettel fan, it can be a little demoralising watching them drive off into the distance without even trying.
 
Theres not an area you guys are weak over the weekend either that others can take advantage of.

I think the only area where Ferrari/McLaren can beat the RedBull is the quality of their drivers.

As we are seeing, McLaren and Ferrari are leading RedBull in the constructors championship.

I don't think the championship is a forgone conclusion as I feel Hamilton and Alonso still have a good chance of winning the title. And I still believe that the gap betwen RedBull and Ferrari/McLaren will reduce as the season progresses.

Also, if we continue to get wet races, then it will be difficult for RedBull to use their speed advantage, as wet races generally rely on driver skill to a greater extent, than the speed of the car.

Anyway, lets see how the race pans out.
 
Absolutely well done CS (and the whole team) for an absolutely stunning car in the dry, that kind of gap to 3rd is just incredible

Saying that - please God drench the Catalunya circuit in lots of rain tomorrow early afternoon, otherwise it could well end up being a dreadful race even before its really begun

(I did laugh at the commentary team saying Alonso is unlikely to risk anything closing the F duct with his glove in the race if he needs to grip the wheel.....if anything Alonso is the MOST LIKELY to risk it imo) Leaving something like that upto the driver is asking for trouble imo, black flag the car immediately until they redesign it for the knee or other hand. I cant see how both hands being off the wheel simultaneously ISNT dangerous

It also may not be a "racing" situation but its nice to see the FIA being kind to Ferrari yet again regarding the release of Alonso into Rosberg in the pits - what the **** is the point of fining Ferrari money for God's sake - absolutely stupid imo, its not even a slap on the wrist.
 
Found a bar here tht shows all the sport, going to nip down and see if they have this on. Might not though, at 3pm on a weekday, i'll probably be the only person in there.

Otherwise it's back to searching through all the arabic channels to see what i can find! I literally have F1 withdrawal.
 
Few tech updates at F1.com

http://www.formula1.com/news/technical/



Found a bar here tht shows all the sport, going to nip down and see if they have this on. Might not though, at 3pm on a weekday, i'll probably be the only person in there.

Otherwise it's back to searching through all the arabic channels to see what i can find! I literally have F1 withdrawal.

Should be some online feeds to watch?
 
A few weeks ago their was a suggestion that Red Bull were running some for of active ride height control, not active suspension, but the ability to compensate for fuel load ride height changes. Now everyone seems to have gone very quiet on this issue. Is this a case of all the teams working on their own versions or do people think the concept was wrong.

If true it must have a large impact on aero upgrqades because with ride height control you can optimise the aero for one configuration but without you must optimise aero across the range of ride hieghts from start to finish.

Is RBR's increasing qualifying pace a consequence of one technical innovation allowing them to better hone others?
 
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