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hartgeh3 said:
Diggsy, what drive did you get? I have the 2TB version which I want to upgrade also maybe the fan inside too (or maybe its the HDD)
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Seagate Skyhawk 4TB. Installation was a breeze and it’s no noisier than the drive that was in there, in fact if anything it’s a little quieter - to my ears anyway!

Thankfully there’s no fan in my NVR, one of the main reasons I went for the 8 channel one, as I know the 16 channel has a fan.
 
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dlockers said:
Thanks for the input @Diggsy . I held off after reading some comments that it wasn't great with non-Reolink gear. I think I might do a dedicated BlueIris box after all that...
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No worries at all. Hopefully you find something that works well for you. The Reolink has been ideal for my needs, although I guess having cams and NVR all from Reolink probably helps
 
Diggsy said:
Seagate Skyhawk 4TB. Installation was a breeze and it’s no noisier than the drive that was in there, in fact if anything it’s a little quieter - to my ears anyway!

Thankfully there’s no fan in my NVR, one of the main reasons I went for the 8 channel one, as I know the 16 channel has a fan.
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Yep I have the same one, I might get one around black Friday see if there will be any "deals" on the 8-12TB WD or Seatgates.
 
Hi everyone

The wife wants a ring doorbell but also wants to pay the yearly subscription for online recordings. Though I personally can't justify the price when I have told her we can buy a doorbell with our own recorder and I explained the reolink NVR to her.

Though I don't want it hardwired so would prefer the Wi-Fi version

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I was thinking of getting that and purchasing the 8 channel NVR. Does anyone on here actually have this combination and does it work perfectly fine.

I have just read you can also use a Synology NAS with surveillance station. I have an old DS412+ collecting dust so might give this a try before purchasing the NVR.

Many thanks for any help and advice
 
Looking for some help please

Got a vile neighbour (long story been ongoing for 2 years, started with she keyed my car now she is throwing rocks into our garden)

Police are well aware but need to get hard evidence so they can arrest her - she now has a PCW but she's started up again

I have 3 Google Nest cameras outdoors but their motion capture doesn't pick up the rock throwing

Looking for a discreet device I can put indoors on the window sill of my sons bedroom to look down on their garden (semi detached) and record her, she will be between 3m to 15m away and can watch the footage back to catch her throwing rocks (hopefully clips are tagged when there is action?)

Anything out there not crazy expensive/complicated do this?
 
Edit: You can’t do what you are proposing, it would be illegal.

Be very careful if any video or audio recording captures anything which is not your property or a public space. Given the circumstances, I would very carefully read the ICO’s guidance on CCTV so you don’t find yourself being counter sued for invading their privacy.
 
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Oxide™ said:
I have 3 Google Nest cameras outdoors but their motion capture doesn't pick up the rock throwing
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A higher frame rate should help. Can you set the frame rate higher on your cams? Otherwise, a higher performance camera with higher frame rate and higher resolution.

I would have a look at the Reolink range. Maybe ask in their Facebook community re the performance requirements needed.
 
b0rn2sk8 said:
Edit: You can’t do what you are proposing, it would be illegal.

Be very careful if any video or audio recording captures anything which is not your property or a public space. Given the circumstances, I would very carefully read the ICO’s guidance on CCTV so you don’t find yourself being counter sued for invading their privacy.
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If she is throwing (large?) rocks over then she would be endangering life, so if the Police won't prosecute without evidence, what else is he supposed to do?
 
Oxide™ said:
It should be ok as 'a legitimate reason to prevent crime' ?
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I seriously doubt it, in fact I’m going to go as far as saying it’s not a legitimate reason.

You are setting up a CCTV camera for the sole purpose of filming someone’s private property. That has never been ok and will land you in court if they take it further, particularly as you are also aiming to conceal the camera.

People have found themselves in court for doing specifically what you are proposing.

Capturing other peoples property should be incidental in first instance. You should also seek permission to capture any images from property which isn’t yours, that obviously isn’t happening here.

radderfire said:
If she is throwing (large?) rocks over then she would be endangering life, so if the Police won't prosecute without evidence, what else is he supposed to do?
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What did they do before CCTV cameras were a thing… that’s just lazy thinking.

At the end of the day, the UKs privacy laws mean you can’t just capture what you want on other peoples private property, people have a right to privacy. It’s simply not reasonable to record your neighbours garden without their permission 24/7 even if they are being an utter **** for a few mins a day.

Record your own garden, it will be obvious where the stones come from…
 
Oxide™ said:
I have 3 Google Nest cameras outdoors but their motion capture doesn't pick up the rock throwing
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To catch rocks in mid air you need a short electronic shutter/exposure time (not to be confused with frame rate although more frames can be useful in conjunction). I don't know the capabilities of those cameras but you should be looking for ones that have allow these to be configured and also have a good sensor size versus resolution as this yields more light in a shorter time and works better especially with a shorter exposure time.

For example my external cameras will easily pick up rain drops mid air during the day as they working on a much shorter exposure when light levels permits.
 
Nest cams set to highest quality etc already, no option for frame rate/exposure

The rocks she has thrown (I've collected a bag of them already) vary in size from thumbnail to golf ball size - she has already smashed our glass patio table with them which the camera looking right at it didn't pick up (and police couldn't do anything as our word against hers without evidence). She threw rocks once whilst myself and my 5 year old were in the garden, she was aiming for the greenhouse. Police called and she even admitted it because apparently we threw snails over (we haven't retaliated once)

Ok so if I set the camera zone from the common fence into our garden, what camera would pick up clearly the stones coming over?

We need to get her done, she continues to bang on our bedroom wall early hours of the morning (intermittent over 2 years) to wake our 6 month baby up - have sound recordings of these but still not enough for police

It's seriously affecting our right to peaceful living in own home - she is a vile lady and we don't want any 'diminished responsibility due to a medical condition', she needs what is owing to her, legally
 
Oxide™ said:
Ok so if I set the camera zone from the common fence into our garden, what camera would pick up clearly the stones coming over?

We need to get her done, she continues to bang on our bedroom wall early hours of the morning (intermittent over 2 years) to wake our 6 month baby up - have sound recordings of these but still not enough for police

It's seriously affecting our right to peaceful living in own home - she is a vile lady and we don't want any 'diminished responsibility due to a medical condition', she needs what is owing to her, legally
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Sounds like a more sensible approach - look at Reolink.

Go for 4K so you can make out smaller objects and as you are recording out of a window, you probably want something with a narrower field of view/longer lens as you’ll be further away than say on the back of the house.

P.S. if you are looking to prevent crime rather than catch someone in the act - CCTV is only preventative when it’s visible. Mount the camera on the outside of your house rather than hiding it and they’ll probably stop.
 
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I see that Reolink and Euify are recommended here for CCTV, do either of these integrate well with an intruder alarm with an external sounder? I'm looking to install both CCTV and intruder alarm whilst doing my house up.
 
Not sure you can attach external siren
Directly to reolink cameras
At least I can't to mine
Would depend on your set up i guess
If you're recording to a nvr then might be able
To attach external siren to its audio out
Or it may be possible to get a stand alone external siren
That integrates with home assistant
And use home assistant to monitor detections on the camera
To sound an external siren

Though motion detection may set of false alarms
On outside cameras
Depending on various factors like trees/bushes,animals, shadows from different
Sun position ,wind moving things etc
If just indoor cameras then false detection would be
Less likely
 
Furton said:
I see that Reolink and Euify are recommended here for CCTV, do either of these integrate well with an intruder alarm with an external sounder? I'm looking to install both CCTV and intruder alarm whilst doing my house up.
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I wouldn't recommend Eufy and Reolink isn't for me, but its a reasonable value for money brand. The main question is what do you expect from this integration?

I have a double digit number of CCTV cameras and a very complex Texecom alarm system but both of these and AI image analysis of images just input to HA. I use those inputs to trigger notifications to phones and in house wall mounted tablets and turn on lights but nothing more. CCTV isn't a good deterrent as a simple hoody or mask means there is no ID, and in practice even when presented with great 4K CCTV of home intrusion/car theft the authorities will do nothing and I say that from experience.

Many CCTV cameras can flash a light and make a sound on motion detection but being able to do this without false triggers due to owners, delivery people etc is tricky and the actual benefit is negligible. The first line of defence is physical security, then lighting for night time deterrent (if in a populated area) and finally monitoring with alarms and CCTV with remote monitoring/notifications so you know something has happened.
 
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