Spec me a CCTV System

^^^^ Make sure you are not typing ADMIN rather than admin and then 12345. Not always easy to see that the way the the numeric / keypad thing is when you access the NVR.

Can't you enter it via the SADP tool when checking what is on your network and seeing the cams and NVR...?

You could always log in via a web browser with the IP address of the NVR
 
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Need to add a third hikvision PoE camera to my setup so looking at PoE switches.

These any good? - anyone any experience with them?

8 Port TP-LINK TL-SG2210P Gigabit Smart PoE Switch with 2 SFP Slots

Looking to replace my Netgear GSS108E (and the two external PoE injectors) with this TP-Link unit. Hope it doesn't impact performance - its a bit overkill but I'd like to have the Link aggregation and other networking stuff to play with.

On a side note - anyone using Synology SS?
I'm wondering if theres any benefit in running the CCTV traffic on a seperate VLAN? For example utilising the second onboard NIC on the synology to segregate the CCTV traffic?
 
^^^^ That POE switch seems pretty good, with its power delivery across the 8 POE ports. I bought a Netgear GS110 which does not provide as much power but is good enough for the six IP cameras I have fitted to it. That in turn is connected to a cheap Gigabit switch. That switch is connected directly to my NVR but also to the LAN. That way all the heavy CCTV traffic is direct between the NVR and the cameras but the cameras are accessible directly over the LAN.

I like being able to reset the cameras if needed by just doing it remotely from the Netgear POE switch.

As noted Aliexpress also sell cheap POE type switches now, not used them though.
 
For an IR light these are pretty good

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Quote "The sharing of images from your own personal web-space is acceptable providing you are the owner and give permission to do so"

This is my own personal webspace and I own it

"100ZL Model IR Led" on a certain auction site
 
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Is there any which are standalone night vision CCTV with an SD card for recording in them? I'd like one to go into a garage that isn't near the house but it would need a power supply from a leisure battery via an inverter or something.

Bought a Lidl one but you needed wireless internet and a router to set it up which I don't have (tethering to get internet).
 
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That way all the heavy CCTV traffic is direct between the NVR and the cameras but the cameras are accessible directly over the LAN.
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I can check the network stats on my Synology NAS and it shows only about 300k max bandwidth being used by the 2 current IP cameras @ 1080p/25fps.

Adding a third will prob take it up to 450kb - will that be ok on a fully gigabit network or should I take action to segregate the data like you have bud?

VLAN's will still use the same network link so will take up the same if not more bandwidth I'm assuming? Whereas I could potentially utilise a single switch for all three of my cameras and connect it to the second NIC on the Synology i'm thinking.....

thanks.
 
You must be getting confused with your data transfer etc....

My 6 1080p cams use up about 38Mb/s in data transfer. At 1080p around 20fps/15fps and around 5000k bit rate, constant, it soon goes.

I separated mine for the throughput I noted, a cheap switch to do that was less than a tenner. Also the cams are then accessable over the LAN, if and as needed.
 
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You must be getting confused with your data transfer etc....

My 6 1080p cams use up about 38Mb/s in data transfer. At 1080p around 20fps/15fps and around 5000k bit rate, constant, it soon goes.

I separated mine for the throughput I noted, a cheap switch to do that was less than a tenner. Also the cams are then accessable over the LAN, if and as needed.
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I wouldn't be surprised if I was judging it all wrong bud lol :) - I've just been going off this:

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Pretty sure mine are set to constant bitrate - I have a 2Tb drive and 900Gb each assigned to the two cameras I currently have - it gives me about 3 months worth of coverage!

Unfortunately one of my cameras is connected to a switch in the back room (NAS is in front room) - this means I couldn't segregate all the data unless I ran another network cable through to that room :(
 
Are you recording constant 24/7 or just on motion detection...? Are you using a postage stamp revolution and minecraft bit-rate...? :p



which will give me around 2 weeks and 5 days 24/7 recording with around 6TB of usable space at the bit rates, resolution etc used.
 
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Top pic shows camera settings - both Hikvision 2332 and 2132 are set to the same settings. 24/7 recording onto a 2Tb Hard drive with each camera set to archive and rotate after 900Gb each.

Bottom pic shows that my current recording archive goes all the way back to 31/10/15!!!

How did you calculate the above pic? Was there a tool you used to monitor the network? thanks dude.
 
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Take a look here....



you will see my bitrate but also note Hikvisions recommended - sort of coincidence that the recommended and my own are the same - the max throughput which is recordable on my NVR is 40Mb/sec and so I have to plan carefully.on FPS etc.


Your bitrate is quite low, especially at 25fps.

What software / hardware are you recording to, just curious.

The utility used is part of the Hikvision Tools.....

http://www.hikvisioneurope.com/port...ls Setup/&file=Hikvision Tools (V1.2.1.2).zip
 
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Thats where I've gone wrong bud - my bitrates are too low:

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Changing the figures to the recommended 4096 up's the bandwidth useage for two cameras to 11.5Mbps

Will change that setting on the NAS - with three cameras that will be a total of about 18Mbps. Will do some network testing to figure out if it has any impact on anything else - I don't think it will.
 
End result:

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It's a bit wierd that both cameras have same settings but the 2332 needs a slightly higher bitrate. Hey ho. My new 2532 will probably chew more as I'm going to use it's built-in mic too (catch them darn chavs always playing around my car)

So 1.3MB/s = 13Mbps I'm assuming so the bandwidth calculator more or less matches what the NAS is showing now.

So about 20Mbps - On a fully gigabit network thats only like 1/5th of the bandwidth used. Don't think I need to seperate as I've only got two tellys and even if both were streaming at the same time whilst the cameras were all recording that would still be only about 50Mb/s - half the limit of gigabit?
 
Seems good. I kept mine off the LAN as I have a media server on the LAN and I enjoy around 112mb/s transfer rate when moving large files. I didn't want that to be compromised. I knew that the CCTV had the potential to use almost half of the LAN throughput, well not far off.
 
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What software / hardware are you recording to, just curious.
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Thats great Vimes thanks. Sorry I missed your question earlier - Config is as follows:

Hikvision 2332 at the front, 2132 at the rear - both uk spec
2532 - knockoff is on its way to supplement the front 2332 and add audio.

Synology DS-415+ with 3 x 3b WD Reds (SHR RAID) and One 2Tb WD Purple configured as Volume2 just for the camera recordings. The camera software is the latest official Surveillance Station software provided with the NAS. I have had to purchase one additional license at a cost of about £40 (it came with 2 for free). This config gives me redundancy for the media (3x3Tb reds) and seperates out the camera's in case coppers pay a visit and want to take the drive away (had this before lol!).

Networking is all gigabit gear - Front room is where the majority of the kit is (PS4, Amp, LG TV, PC, Xbox, Virgin media 200Mb tinterwebz etc). It's all running off an Asus RT-AC3200 connected to the Netgear switch I mentioned earlier (This will hopefully be swapped out for the PoE TP-Link switch due tomorrow).

There is a single cat 5 cable running through to the back room which connects to the rear camera, TIVO box and a Sammy Smart TV).


Whole setup runs off the NAS basically - Not had a problem streaming to both TV's at the same time, and data transfer rates (last time I tested) was about 100Mb/s when copying to and from the NAS so I don't think the two current cameras have that much of an impact on bandwidth. I should retest all that now as I'm using the new bitrates now.

Will give it a try tomorrow when the new switch arrives ;)
 
Looks pretty impressive. If I had to start again that would have been a consideration for me, a NAS. But with a HP microserver for media and then an NVR what I have works fine.
I like to use 24/7 recording and, as needed, can use the Hikvision software to search for VCA events, motion detection, on a time line which it then marks in red.
When I have supplied recordings to the police I gave them the recordings on a stick, certainly not a drive.! I just download a little before and after the event, to provide context, and grab some stills and put it all on a stick for them.
I couldn't understand why that software selects two different bit rates for your cameras, with the same resolution, bit rate and FPS you would have expected them to be the same.

Why a 2532 with a ring of LED's...?
 
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Why a 2532 with a ring of LED's...?
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The 2532 is rather small but also comes with a built-in Mic - it will be mounted above my front window where I already have an old analogue one for show (just so peeps know there are cameras there as the other two are up high and hidden) and it will be pointing directly at head level at the car, so I can capture faces (and names now thanks to the mic). It's still funny watching peeps walk by and ducking for cover or pulling over hoodies etc when they see the camera :)

I bought the 2332 and love that camera - The 2132 I won from the company I bought the 2332 from lol - I wrote a review and they give one away every month, surprised I won! - It's a shame though as the 2332 is far superior to the 2132 at nightime - the external LED's really make a difference and also the dome shielding of the 2132 reflects lighting badly and has to be kept clean all the time.

All that stuff you've mentioned is configurable through the NAS too - for example I can use motion detection from the camera or from the NAS (The NAS one is supposed to be far superior). I used to have a two bay NAS and a seperate analogue NVR - but decided to switch to a single NAS as I wanted IP cameras and to reduce power useage.

Police have been round a couple of times for footage - first time was for something minor and yes they just brought a memory stick, second time was for a murder so they wanted the whole hard drive as it contained about 2 months worth of footage lol. This way it will stop them taking away my whole NAS.

Have a look at this - Synology Surveillance station is amazing - unfortunately there's only two camera licenses included with new NAS boxes - you have to buy the rest but can go all the way up to 256 cameras if required. One license is about £40 and a pack of four is about £140. It does become expensive but i'm sure you'll agree the feature set is huge!:

https://www.synology.com/en-us/surveillance/7.1

I still need to mess with stuff like multi-casting when i cba lol. It was an expensive move but well worth it for me as I went from an older analogue system to IP.

EDIT: PS - You might want to look into XPnology (or something its called) for your HP microserver. It gives you the full Synology OS and apps ;)
 
Thanks for the above.
I remember my analogue cameras and like you I struggled at times with some type banstead and their outer cover. Cleanliness, IR bounce and reflection was always a pain, often leaving a halo effect around a night image. When I moved over to EXIR cameras with their separate IR lights away from the lens things became so much better.

The Synology kit does read to be far more versatile and polished than I imagined. Whilst it might cost up front, I take your point about the extra CCTV licences, it seems a very capable system.

I had thought of configuring my own PC and use Blue Iris but at the time a NVR just seemed to offer what I needed. The Xponlogy, or something like that, I first read about here in this forum, huge thread, but the microserver simply doesn't have enough power to handle the six IP cams that I have to record. Power usage was also a consideration.

Post back on how you go on with that cam, it seems more than adequate for your needs.
 
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