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Just got 2 of the Hikvision DS-2CD2042WD-I bullet cameras and hooked them up to my synology surveillance station and i must say i am impressed. Motion detection set to use the camera and surveillance station picks up the recording just fine. Really impressed, i am looking at adding another 2 cameras to my setup another DS-2CD2042WD-I bullet and a DS-2CD2142FWD-I dome for the front door.

The only downside is the £40+ you have to pay per extra license to use on surveillance station. Had looked at a stand alone Hikvision NVR but i like the low power synology system setup so think i'll end up biting the bullet on the additional £80 for the 2 licenses.

When you note the low power option of the Synology setup against that of a Hikvision NVR I'm not sure what you mean....? An NVR itself uses around 10w of power in use.

Good result with your cameras, where did you source them from....?
 
Hi Vimes, what i mean regarding the low power setup of the synology is just that it seems a waste for me to buy another piece of hardware when i have a decent low power device all ready running on my network that can run a fairly decent CCTV setup already. I think a decent Hikvision NVR will be around £200+, i decided to just buy a 1TB WD Purple drive and stick in in my synology and set Surveillance Station to just use that drive.

Was really chuffed with the camera's, i got them from the rain forest
 
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...ah point taken :)

I bought an NVR as I had no other options at the time and whilst the initial cost is around £200 or so it seemed a good price when you factor in the total cost of the alternatives.

I never really liked, as a broad generalisation, the Hikvision cameras with the ring of IR lights around the lens compared to the EXIR type, with usually two separate IR's.
In fact I changed one of my cameras because of the comparative poor night / low light recording to an EXIR type.
 
To be honest if i didnt have my synology id have done the same as you, what NVR did you go with in the end? I only really started researching IP cameras a few weeks ago and there is so may out there it really is kind of confusing to pick one or two to go with. You can get AIO kits from various well known sites for around £200 including NVR which seem great deals but i was a little unsure of them so decided to go with hikvisions mainly because from what i had read they were decent and we have them at work to.

I did notice though that i cant get a display on them when they are set to the highest resolution of 2688*1520 so had to reduce them both to 1080 and they were both fine. Picture quality is good so dont mind paying the price for a good solid camera. All in all the hardware cost including a POE switch will be around £500 plus the additional licenses for the synology is pretty steep but its a system that does the job well so im not going to complain :)
 
My motion detection gets set off every time it rains at night. Does EXIR solve this? If not would turning the IR off and just using separates do it?
 
Just got 2 of the Hikvision DS-2CD2042WD-I bullet cameras and hooked them up to my synology surveillance station and i must say i am impressed. Motion detection set to use the camera and surveillance station picks up the recording just fine. Really impressed, i am looking at adding another 2 cameras to my setup another DS-2CD2042WD-I bullet and a DS-2CD2142FWD-I dome for the front door.

The only downside is the £40+ you have to pay per extra license to use on surveillance station. Had looked at a stand alone Hikvision NVR but i like the low power synology system setup so think i'll end up biting the bullet on the additional £80 for the 2 licenses.

Nice one bud - sure you'll agree with me that SS is quite a nicely polished product supported well by Synology. You can control all the camera settings from within the SS app itself once it detects the cameras.

Got mine setup more or less the same as yours 3 x 3Tb WD Red SHR for data and 1 x 2tb purple WD for the surveillance volume. Keeping it on a seperate volume also gives you some leeway if the police come knocking and want to take all the footage drive away (I've had this in the past when they don't have time or storage space to copy on to). Got mine clearly labelled CCTV so they can just pull the drive and walk away if need be. (No need for the missus to get all techie if I'm not home either lol)

Also got a third license and found it hard to stomach the cost but its well worth it - Cheapest I found it at was some american site which took the payment in dollars and emailed me a code straight away - Think it worked out about £37.

I've got one of the hikvision 2532F-IS models watching the front door - if you've got a synology setup I'd recommend the models with a built-in mic for that purpose, the synology unit does a good job auto detecting the mic and integrating the stream perfectly with the video footage.

All mine are set to 1080p - Only reason was that the higher resolution gave more of a boxy picture whereas 1080p filled the screen on my phone using DS cam lol. Seemed to do the job well enough and saves more on hard drive useage.
 
To be honest if i didnt have my synology id have done the same as you, what NVR did you go with in the end? I only really started researching IP cameras a few weeks ago and there is so may out there it really is kind of confusing to pick one or two to go with. You can get AIO kits from various well known sites for around £200 including NVR which seem great deals but i was a little unsure of them so decided to go with hikvisions mainly because from what i had read they were decent and we have them at work to.

I did notice though that i cant get a display on them when they are set to the highest resolution of 2688*1520 so had to reduce them both to 1080 and they were both fine. Picture quality is good so dont mind paying the price for a good solid camera. All in all the hardware cost including a POE switch will be around £500 plus the additional licenses for the synology is pretty steep but its a system that does the job well so im not going to complain :)

There is no point in me linking my NVR as it is no longer being produced and has been superseded my more functional and value for money units. Some posters here have bought the newer types, like this one....

https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B00YU6W1C0/ref=olp_product_details?_encoding=UTF8&me=

...with 8 POE powered ports and up to 50Mbps it has a pretty good spec for around £200.

EDIT: Saw postage costs. IIRC there are other dealers in the UK selling this also.
 
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My motion detection gets set off every time it rains at night. Does EXIR solve this? If not would turning the IR off and just using separates do it?

Why not record 24/7 and just tag for motion detection. False / positives will happen and all the fine tuning would only leave you doubtful of missing meaningful detection or equally detecting the moth / spider / snow or rain etc.
 
Hi Guys,

Does anyone know a camera setup that doesn't have OSD on the cameras? I want to send the output to a live display on the cheap and don't want the text across the top.

Cheers. :)
 
I think the Hikvision cameras let you decide if you want the onscreen displays, as it's something that if you've got a PVR that can add the text you don't want it duplicated.
 
If anyone is looking for a cheap and half!! decent system i thought id let you know about my quick setup.
Ive got a tenvis 720p outdoor IP camera setup outside covering my driveway.

Im then running motioneyeos on a Raspberry PI 2 and streaming wireless from the IP camera to the PI.
I can access live images via motioneyeos over the internet on a pc, mobile phone etc.

Storage is on a nas which motioneyeos connects to.

Motion detection can either be saved as a movie or still images, i prefer still images as the quality is better and then i can create a movie if needed.

Ive been running this system 24/7 for a year now. Quality in the daytime is excellent, night time is good enough for what i need. The IR on the camera is sufficent to light up the driveway.
Its a cheap solution and very cheap to run as the PI runs off a 5v power supply.
 
Got my Hikvision DS-2CD2142FWD dome setup today. What I didn't know when buying it was that the POE kit I bought (TP-LINK TL-POE200) uses two boxes an injector and splitter so now I have a little box tucked away in the metal roof that hangs over my doorstep which isn't ideal if it gets wet or damp.

From what i've read if I buy a proper PoE network switch this will allow me to have just one cat6 from the switch to the female ethernet on the camera without any additional boxes, splitters etc?
 
You need a PoE/PoE+ switch or swap the injector end of your setup with a PoE (802.3af) injector like the TP-Link TL-POE150S.
 
looking for a wifi dome camera to replace an outdoor light and not need to run any more wires

is the DS-2CD3132F-IWS going to be good for the job?

what focal length to i need? camera is going to mounted on a celling (outdoors) and need to say directly down/infront a few meters
 
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You need a PoE/PoE+ switch or swap the injector end of your setup with a PoE (802.3af) injector like the TP-Link TL-POE150S.

Thanks ended up going for a TP-LINK TL-SG1008P switch which i'll connect to my 24 port gigabit switch or router which will hopefully do the job.

looking for a wifi dome camera to replace an outdoor light and not need to run any more wires

is the DS-2CD3132F-IWS going to be good for the job?

what focal length to i need? camera is going to mounted on a celling (outdoors) and need to say directly down/infront a few meters

I went for a 2.8mm above my porch as it let me see both side entrances to the garden (around 4m away) but was also wide angle enough I could see anyone knocking the door.

This video shows the differences in focal lengths.

 
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one big issue with the synology setup is lack of chrome support. since google deprecated NPAPI last September the synology cant playback video through chrome. rubbish tbh.
 
Why not record 24/7 and just tag for motion detection. False / positives will happen and all the fine tuning would only leave you doubtful of missing meaningful detection or equally detecting the moth / spider / snow or rain etc.

How do you do this? I want to record continuously because otherwise you inevitably miss something important as it's just outside of your detection box (or the detection just doesnt pick it up), but it would be useful to just highlight the portions where motion is.

I have a Hikvision 7616 but don't remember seeing this option.

Edit - just found, this topic summarises the issue quite well:

http://www.cctvforum.com/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=42166


You can't actually see the motion detection events on the web interface when continuously recording, which makes it unusable.
 
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Could someone clear something up for me please. Someone told me if I have cctv up on my property without clear signs indicating that I'm recording then any footage I have of a crime cannot be used in court. He is adamant of this.

Surely he has confused some rules about guidance on cctv usage? Can anyone clear this up?
 
AFAIK you only need signage for commercial properties.

He may be getting confused with recording telephone calls, but CCTV on private property has no requirement for notification from my understanding.
 
^^^ Agree with the above, the only consideration needed is to not directly look into other peoples properties etc.

One of the recordings that I gave to the police was used in evidence for two scrotes who were being taken to crown court. On reviewing the CCTV footage I had recorded they pleaded guilty.
 
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