Spec me a rice cooker

Hotwired said:
I have a basic mechanical rice cooker which is electrically a rearranged kettle. Goes kerchunk at a predecided temperature :p

For whatever reason giving a rice cooker some conditional code gets to be called fuzzy logic and it has potential to try better settings for a specific outcome vs what you've put in than a basic cooker.

Haven't seen a rice place using one.

Sushi place I go past has two dumb as bricks Buffalo rice cookers. Malay restaurant also has a dumb large capacity rice cooker.

I reckon fuzzy logic attempts to cover weird stuff that consumers do and commercial users that consistently measure correctly and cook one type of rice one way forever have no need of it.

Commercial rice cookers: https://www.catering-appliance.com/rice-cookers all big and dumb :eek:
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You can, and i can too…with effort, able to do what fuzzy logic does using nothing but a clay pot on an open fire.

The skill here is to know when to turn the heat on high, when on medium and when on low, how long to wait after the heat goes off. A dumb one only has the on/off element. It doesn’t have any of the heating curve element. It usually end up with burnt rice at the bottom, or rice slightly harder in texture. The one in the Zojirushi makes them in the same consistency from top to bottom, all with 1 click. That’s what you are paying for. Commercial ones will have burnt rice at the bottom, i guarantee it….my dad has one of these, and you simply don’t serve customers with these burnt bits that’s all.
 
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Raymond Lin said:
You can, and i can too…with effort, able to do what fuzzy logic does using nothing but a clay pot on an open fire.

The skill here is to know when to turn the heat on high, when on medium and when on low, how long to wait after the heat goes off. A dumb one only has the on/off element. It doesn’t have any of the heating curve element. It usually end up with burnt rice at the bottom, or rice slightly harder in texture. The one in the Zojirushi makes them in the same consistency from top to bottom, all with 1 click. That’s what you are paying for. Commercial ones will have burnt rice at the bottom, i guarantee it….my dad has one of these, and you simply don’t serve customers with these burnt bits that’s all.
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I looked into the bottom rice thing once, turns out the official solution is silicone mats: https://www.amazon.co.uk/Buffalo-AJ167-Silicone-CN324-Cooker/dp/B08R7RVNJF

Can't dry out and overheat at the bottom if it can't touch the bottom.
 
Raymond Lin said:
Nobody will deny that it will make rice, so does a saucepan, but like i said…TN vs OLED.

Not sure what point you are trying to prove…I’ve had cheap rice cookers too For years.
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I am simply trying to prove it is not necessary to spend this sort of money on a rice cooker.

Yes, of course you want the best TV you can afford with the best panel available, but this a rice cooker!

Good quality rice and then use the correct quantity of rice vs water in a normal rice cooker. Boom!

I am not saying you are wrong by any means but applying fuzzy logic to a rice cooker seems to be over engineering a problem which doesn’t exist.

Chinese would be laughing at us all now saying they don’t even have a rice cooker and the wife does it perfect everytime :D
 
Philtor said:
I am simply trying to prove it is not necessary to spend this sort of money on a rice cooker.

Yes, of course you want the best TV you can afford with the best panel available, but this a rice cooker!

Good quality rice and then use the correct quantity of rice vs water in a normal rice cooker. Boom!

I am not saying you are wrong by any means but applying fuzzy logic to a rice cooker seems to be over engineering a problem which doesn’t exist.

Chinese would be laughing at us all now saying they don’t even have a rice cooker and the wife does it perfect everytime :D
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Oh Palawan, you have no idea! Go to the far east and everyone wants a rice cooker like this for a reason, they know it makes better rice.

The typical English person response and you are not the first, or the last is “it’s a bloody rice cooker!” I’ve heard it before, trust me, lots of times. They simply don’t know any better or can’t tell the difference, then in that instance, save your money. They think using a sauce pan to cook rice is normal, whereas in my entire life…we’ve always had a rice cooker at home as far back as I can remember. Even back when we lived in HK in the sticks where we had no toilet or electric kettle..but had a rice cooker (a dumb one back then).

OP ask a question and said “budget not a factor”. I simply gave him an answer where cost is not a factor. It is simply a better product.

Ps the problem does exist, I’ve already explained why…like twice? The devil is in the detail, if you can’t tell the difference, like you can’t, save your money.

But have you ever used one with fuzzy logic and compared though…if you haven’t, then how would you know it’s not better? You don’t, just assuming?
 
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Raymond Lin said:
Oh Palawan, you have no idea! Go to the far east and everyone wants a rice cooker like this for a reason, they know it makes better rice.

The typical English person response and you are not the first, or the last is “it’s a bloody rice cooker!” I’ve heard it before, trust me, lots of times. They simply don’t know any better or can’t tell the difference, then in that instance, save your money. They think using a sauce pan to cook rice is normal, whereas in my entire life…we’ve always had a rice cooker at home as far back as I can remember. Even back when we lived in HK in the sticks where we had no toilet or electric kettle..but had a rice cooker (a dumb one back then).

OP ask a question and said “budget not a factor”. I simply gave him an answer where cost is not a factor. It is simply a better product.

Ps the problem does exist, I’ve already explained why…like twice? The devil is in the detail, if you can’t tell the difference, like you can’t, save your money.

But have you ever used one with fuzzy logic and compared though…if you haven’t, then how would you know it’s not better? You don’t, just assuming?
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Calm the ham! I don’t know what one is with fuzzy logic.

Does it sing to me when it’s cooking and whistle when it’s finished? :D

All joke aside, I was only saying spending that sort of ££ on a rice cooker is totally unnecessary (imo).
 
Philtor said:
Calm the ham! I don’t know what one is with fuzzy logic.

Does it sing to me when it’s cooking and whistle when it’s finished? :D

All joke aside, I was only saying spending that sort of ££ on a rice cooker is totally unnecessary (imo).
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Like i said, if you have tried it and can’t tell the difference or don’t eat rice practically every day like i do, then don’t get one.

But if you haven’t tried it though…you need to, before forming judgment at least. It’s also not that expensive relative to my other appliances. Of all my appliances, it’s not even in the Top 5 most expensive. The coffee grinder takes top spot, then there is the Kitchen Aid, the espresso machine, the gelato machine…then microwave, bread maker, then air fryer, then what the rice cooker cost me….i love my kitchen gadgets.

p.s. It actually plays a jingle when you press Start and another jingle when it finishes…
 
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Zojirushi or gtfo tbh..it even tells the time when it's unplugged.

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Thanks all for the advice.
In the end i went for..


Mainly because I can get it from Amazon/fuzzy logic and it's tiny.
Unfortunately I couldn't get the one Raymond listed from Amazon, and prefer to use them for any warranty issues.
It arrives tomorrow, so I guess the proof of the pudding will be in the eating.



Raymond Lin said:
Of all my appliances, it’s not even in the Top 5 most expensive. The coffee grinder takes top spot, then there is the Kitchen Aid, the espresso machine, the gelato machine…then microwave, bread maker, then air fryer, then what the rice cooker cost me….i love my kitchen gadgets.
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Same here, even my steamer was twice the price, and if it cooks rice that I'm happy with, It'l be a small price to pay :)
 
JonRGV250 said:
Thanks all for the advice.
In the end i went for..


Mainly because I can get it from Amazon/fuzzy logic and it's tiny.
Unfortunately I couldn't get the one Raymond listed from Amazon, and prefer to use them for any warranty issues.
It arrives tomorrow, so I guess the proof of the pudding will be in the eating.





Same here, even my steamer was twice the price, and if it cooks rice that I'm happy with, It'l be a small price to pay :)
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Tell us what you think. I thought that one over-cooked brown rice. But it probably depends on what you think is cooked and what you think is over-cooked.
 
It actually arrives today (by 10pm) so I’ll be glad to let you know how it is, but it can’t be any worse than me faffing around using a pan and either ending up eating miniature bullets or wall paper paste, or using my Ninja speedi and making way way too much.
I guess the one downside is that it doesn’t play a wee jingle when it’s finished :(
 
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JonRGV250 said:
Thanks all for the advice.
In the end i went for..


Mainly because I can get it from Amazon/fuzzy logic and it's tiny.
Unfortunately I couldn't get the one Raymond listed from Amazon, and prefer to use them for any warranty issues.
It arrives tomorrow, so I guess the proof of the pudding will be in the eating.





Same here, even my steamer was twice the price, and if it cooks rice that I'm happy with, It'l be a small price to pay :)
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I’ve had a panda mini for a couple of years now.

I’ve had no issues at all. I mostly cook jasmine rice.
 
JonRGV250 said:
It actually arrives today (by 10pm) so I’ll be glad to let you know how it is, but it can’t be any worse than me faffing around using a pan and either ending up eating miniature bullets or wall paper paste, or using my Ninja speedi and making way way too much.
I guess the one downside is that it doesn’t play a wee jingle when it’s finished :(
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Oh, anything is better than that, for sure. Rice cookers are worth their weight in gold. I used to destroy endless pans trying to cook rice manually!
 
SpellowHouse said:
Tell us what you think. I thought that one over-cooked brown rice. But it probably depends on what you think is cooked and what you think is over-cooked.
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How we generally consume brown rice in the UK is a bit different to Japan iirc. My wife prefers to cook the brown rice on the white rice setting.
 
would probably go for panda mini ceramic following earlier threads,
but inability of any of them, or new designs, to also cook breakfast porridge oats still puts me off;
have rice at least once a week, but porridge 3 times, if that could automatically be turned on whilst still in bed would be a killer app

Kemik said:
Went for a Panda Mini Fuzzy Logic Ceramic Rice Cooker for £80 and use it every other day. One of the best kitchen purchases I've made. Wash the rice, throw it in the cooker and walk away. Keeps warm for 12 hours so don't needto worry about when I need to start cooking.
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