Speed Cameras

[jimblowscash]

I got caught the other day doing 46mph in a 40mph zone.

I was under the impression that they only prosecuted people who travel faster than 10% plus 2mph than the spped limit.

This equates to speeds of 47mph and over.

Should I just pay the fine or should I point this out to the cheif constable?

this is just home office recomendations, its up to the indavidual force to decide. basicaly if there crime figures are a little down that month they will blitz the good old motorist for a few days as belive it or not catching someone speeding on a camera counts as solved crime...... dont figure does it
and as solved crime and crime rate figures reflect on the budget for the coming year, arround about now every available plod wil be out with his camera

 

[jimblowscash]

Thats not relevant, your statement is not true, Not everyone speeds.

Oh and I do not agree with the speed kills campaign either. Its lack of driver education and over estimation of there skills that kills.

the man speaks the truth!

 

[mortuzac]

Sid re read my origianl question. 5 or 6 mph over the limit is speeding YES, but it's not like doing 100mph in a 40 limit. I personally think that less than 10 mph over the limit should be ignored under certain circumstances. I'm sure that if it was a copper with a speed gun, he'd of let me off with a talking to


I was only asking for advice. I'm not saying I'm going to court. My letter is the battle..... (and yes i did mention it in there!!!)

...and intead of 'Yeah go for it dude !!!!...... it's NO NO NO you're wrong blah blah blah. Youre breaking the law BLAH BLAH BLAH... how sad. How come none of you are a bit more supportive?? NEGATIVE NEGATIVE NEGATIVE

What's wrong with you guys?..... maybe a couse in anger management or people realtions is on the cards.

 

[hardc0re_tid]

I was under the impression that they only prosecuted people who travel faster than 10% plus 2mph than the spped limit.

that was all done away with AFAIK, anything over the limit now and your nicked!

 

[mortuzac]

hardcore..... i think you're right ... those days are gone... i just wish that I was informed about the change.


but do you think they did that because of the increase in revenue it would bring or to reduce deaths and accidents?

 

[Berger]

Evidently a talking to from a police officer wouldnt have had any effect judging from your above the law attitude. So when you reach 12 points from speeding the DVLA will ban you from driving and that will have some effect when your waiting at the bus stop and not on the roads thinking your a driving god above the law.

 

[mortuzac]

berger


what's your problem dude?

I was originally thinking that this fine went under the net, and that I could have got off with it.

I was asking whether I should write a letter to the cheif constable or not, that's it. THE END Asking for opinions.... why you so condecending ?

Why u talking about me being banned for?

You're probably sum youth kid jerk who thinks you know it all.

you'd better conquer the world before you loose your confidence.

when you leave mummy and daddies house and enter the real world you may post something like this.

So please only posts from REAL PEOPLE and not JERKS who're protected in their cotton wool world.

 

[Berger]

berger
what's your problem dude?
when you leave mummy and daddies house and enter the real world you may post something like this.

So please only posts from REAL PEOPLE and not JERKS who're protected in their cotton wool world.

Your the one who sounds like a kid with your jumped up posting style, poor spelling and grammar.

Why u talking about me being banned for?

In a previous post you mentioned you already had points iirc and if you keep going at this rate it wont be long until you have reached 6 (if your within your first two years which by going off your posting style i would assume you are!) or 12 if you have been driving more than 2 years.

You're probably sum youth kid jerk who thinks you know it all.

I know to slow down to the speed limit for a big yellow box, and if you look at my profile im a month off being 21 and finish uni this year.

I was asking whether I should write a letter to the cheif constable or not, that's it. THE END Asking for opinions.... why you so condecending ?

Im giving you my opinion, it sounds harsh because your trying to justify being caught speeding. And claiming you should be let off by basing it on a rule which was told you unofficially once.

When i thought i had been caught doing ~80 on the motorway i posted on here saying i thought i had been caught, as it turns out it was an ANPR camera and i didnt get any points. However if i had been caught then i would have just filled in the letter and admited to the offence since i was caught doing it, not tried to wiggle out of it.

Have a holier than thou rolleyes.

 

[yak.h'cir]

My Mum got 3 points and I think a fine for going 32, yes, 32 in a 30 zone.

Unlucky! I got pulled for doing 50 in a 30 but got let off with a warning. But that was after i pointed out that it was only a 30 because of the school (it was a wide street, well lit) and seeing as it was 10pm there were no children...

 

[Morba]

Sid re read my origianl question. 5 or 6 mph over the limit is speeding YES, but it's not like doing 100mph in a 40 limit. I personally think that less than 10 mph over the limit should be ignored under certain circumstances. I'm sure that if it was a copper with a speed gun, he'd of let me off with a talking to


I was only asking for advice. I'm not saying I'm going to court. My letter is the battle..... (and yes i did mention it in there!!!)

...and intead of 'Yeah go for it dude !!!!...... it's NO NO NO you're wrong blah blah blah. Youre breaking the law BLAH BLAH BLAH... how sad. How come none of you are a bit more supportive?? NEGATIVE NEGATIVE NEGATIVE

What's wrong with you guys?..... maybe a couse in anger management or people realtions is on the cards.

its hard to support something that has no supporting case, has no weight behind it and has no chance of working.
Also, it may be yourself that needs a course in anger management. You have come on here ranting about being caught speeding, abusing members who have tried to tell you time and time again that 10%+2 is not a legal limit, its a guideline only.
You have been advised to accept the points and fine and maybe investigate the speedchoice course (should it be available to you) as soon as possible, yet you continue to say that you were not in the wrong and your mate the 'chief constable' has told you so before.
It has nothing to do with you not being told that 10%+2 is now a guideline, you have learned that 40mph is the limit, that is the legal limit regardless of any guideline allowances. 40mph is 40mph, regardless of a guideline. You were caught going over it (1 of many times that you have admittedly sped down that stretch of road), accept it.

 

[tonyyeb]

/Unsubscribes from thread after banging my head on the wall too many times

 

[iCraig]

i always thought that the cameras were there to save lives. Yes I am all for it. But what about the cameras being put up in areas where there has never been an accident. What's the point of that? IMO it's to get more money from us.

You're probably right and you're entering into the massive speed camera debate as to why they're used and in the manner they're used. However, this cannot be used as any form of excuse for you. You knew their was a camera there, and you knew the limit. You broke that limit. It's unfortunate and you have my sympathies to a certain extent because I know how frustrating it is to be fined and given points when your driving was probably perfectly safe.

Yet I'm afraid you simply got caught doing what most of us do every single day. Every time we go above the limit we're aware of the risks and should be prepared for any consequences that come from it. If you're not prepared for them and refuse to accept the speed camera system, then there is a simple solution. Don't go over the limit.

5mph over the limit is not fast. What I was really trying to say is that BIG BROTHER has changed that camera so that more people get fined. I have never seen or known of an accident at that place.

Yes I agree, 6mph over the limit isn't fast. If it was on a safe road then I doubt children in a 10 mile radius suddenly dropped down dead the second your speedo-meter touched 46. However that isn't going to change matters. You knowingly went over the limit and should be aware of the risks to your wallet and license if you get caught doing it.

I highly doubt the camera was changed. What's the limit on the road?
Do you have proof that the camera was changed in order to trick you? What are you trying to say anyway, you got caught doing 46 in a 40 right? So the limit was set at 40 and you were travelling at 46 and got flashed. What's the issue? Unless you're saying that the road signs told you it was a 50 limit?

I have a friend who is a cheif constable. He told me a few years ago that I CAN DRIVE AT 10% + 2 MPH of the speed limit without any problem.

Well you live and learn don't you? I've heard lots of myths about speed cameras. You shouldn't blindly follow them from one person's advice. If you took it to court they would still say that you purposely went over the 40 limit, regardless of whatever stories you had been fed. That excuse will not float, sorry.

How come you guys are getting so arsi' about it. I suppose sum ov u fink that I deserve to go to jail or summink like that, however I'm gonna fight this one.

Nobody is getting arsey. Just informing you that—unless you get offered an alternative speeding course—you will end up paying the £60 fine and having 3 points on your license. You're banged to rights and have no way out of this as far as I can see.

No, I don't think you deserve to go to prison. However I do think you should just pay the fine and accept the points instead of trying to fight it, because I guarantee you that if you contest 46 in a 40 with no valid excuse, you'll walk out of court with a larger fine.

What's happened to the rebel overclockers of yesteryear. It used to be the cool ppl taking their machines to the limit.... basically cheating the big companies. Seems like some of youze wont partake in that.

I think you just like Raging Against the Machine don't you? Fight the man, man! The state sucks doesn't it?

One day we'll have implants forced on us. I bet most of you think that it's just fine ect ect. I for one feel that saturation point is coming soon.

Many females already have implants.

And CRAIG I'm not worming my way out. Please re-read the original question if you need to. If you are one of those people who follows without questions then you're sad because there's such thing as human error (as well as computer errors).

So you're going to accept the points and fine then, good.

 

[jimblowscash]

not wanting to go too off topic ..... oc of yesteryear????

Originally Posted by mortuzac
What's happened to the rebel overclockers of yesteryear. It used to be the cool ppl taking their machines to the limit.... basically cheating the big companies. Seems like some of youze wont partake in that.

ahh the wise old 32 poster talking there....

mortuzac
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[Fr0dders]

to the pc crew:


I have been driving along that particular road for years. I have always travelled at the same speed (around 45 to 46) because I always thought that the police didn't prosecute at that speed.

you're allowed 10% +1mph

you're prosecuted at 10% + 2mph

which is 46

harsh that its on the line, but they've gotta draw the line somewhere....

 

[mortuzac]

Look guys

I didn't come here for a fight, I came for advice. It's a shame a lot of you WIZE dudes think that your addiction to this site makes you wize. You should get out more!!

It seems this thread has turned into a slagging match.

It's sad to see how angry sum ov u r being. ANd those aint typos... it's slang !

How sad are some of the answers received here. 5 or 6 regulars vs moi isn't fair.

Anyway, I'll keep you posted in terms of what happens to the letter, or do you think I should accept guilt, pay the fine, take the 3 points and the increase in my car insurance cost etc etc without waiting?

and Craig.... women don't have implants.... they're just more intelegent than us men..... it's just that society has always kept them down using mens' strength....... but that's another thread.....


If you would prefer me not to post the outcome of the letter ..... I won't.

 

[Morba]

Look guys

I didn't come here for a fight, I came for advice. It's a shame a lot of you WIZE dudes think that your addiction to this site makes you wize. You should get out more!!

It seems this thread has turned into a slagging match.

It's sad to see how angry sum ov u r being. ANd those aint typos... it's slang !

How sad are some of the answers received here. 5 or 6 regulars vs moi isn't fair.

Anyway, I'll keep you posted in terms of what happens to the letter, or do you think I should accept guilt, pay the fine, take the 3 points and the increase in my car insurance cost etc etc without waiting?

and Craig.... women don't have implants.... they're just more intelegent than us men..... it's just that society has always kept them down using mens' strength....... but that's another thread.....


If you would prefer me not to post the outcome of the letter ..... I won't.

the comment about your typos was probably more around your general standard of spelling, like 'ov' instead of 'of' and 'intelegent'..

as for women not having implants, never heard of boob jobs?

oh last thing, none of us are being angry, you are the one still abusing people, telling us that we should get out more!!

 

[The_Dark_Side]

IMO it's to get more money from us.

"THEY" can't get dollar one from you unless you decide to break the limit.
therefore the choice as to whether you're going to be fined is yours and not "THEIRS".

I have a friend who is a cheif constable. He told me a few years ago that I CAN DRIVE AT 10% + 2 MPH of the speed limit without any problem.

who exactly?
i'll mail him and remind him that the above is the home office guidelines only and not law.

What's happened to the rebel overclockers of yesteryear.

the had a reality check and wised up.

One day we'll have implants forced on us. I bet most of you think that it's just fine ect ect.

yeah because that's the same as being caught speeding.

I was asking whether I should write a letter to the cheif constable or not, that's it.

but i've already sent a letter.

post#10.

you're allowed 10% +1mph

you're allowed no grace at all by law.
the home office guidelines recommend speed+10%+2mph but individual forces are under no obligation to abide by these.
cross the border and the scots police can, and have done so before, charged drivers for breaching the limit by only a couple of MPH.

Anyway, I'll keep you posted in terms of what happens to the letter, or do you think I should accept guilt, pay the fine, take the 3 points and the increase in my car insurance cost etc etc without waiting?

take the fine and points.
unless you already have two speeding convictions you're insurance won't go up.

 

[vila]

Just to put a slightly different slant on things...

Comments such as "take it on the chin like a man" seems slightly akin to take it up the ass whatever the situation.

If the guy wants to let him try and see if he can get off. It’s his legal right to. There are several technicalities that could allow him to avoid taking the points and fine. If he chose to seek legal advice they’re probably a good chance he would get off but of course he'd have to weigh up if it would be worth the £. Similarly if he used websites giving legal advice there is a chance he could exploit a flaw in the NIP to avoid points, however again there is a chance he could loose and risk a higher fine.

The fact is if it is his first offence he's probably better paying the fine and brushing it off.

Regardless it’s his choice and his legal right to do so. The system used by the police to prosecute the public using speed cameras itself bends technicalities of the law so why shouldn’t the public make use of their legal right to defend themselves when it is their legal right?

 

[iCraig]

I didn't come here for a fight, I came for advice. It's a shame a lot of you WIZE dudes think that your addiction to this site makes you wize. You should get out more!!

We've given you the advice. Take the 3 points and fine. It's that simple.
If you don't like our advice, sorry, but that doesn't change that fact that you have almost zero chance of getting off the hook.

How sad are some of the answers received here. 5 or 6 regulars vs moi isn't fair.

Nobody is ganging up on you, we're just all giving you the same advice. But obviously because our advice isn't what we wanted to hear, you're getting annoyed.

Anyway, I'll keep you posted in terms of what happens to the letter, or do you think I should accept guilt, pay the fine, take the 3 points and the increase in my car insurance cost etc etc without waiting?

What did you say in the letter?

If I was you, I would seriously just accept guilt instead of kicking up a fuss.

and Craig.... women don't have implants.... they're just more intelegent than us men..... it's just that society has always kept them down using mens' strength....... but that's another thread.....

Never heard of implants? As in breast implants? What the hell kind of implants are you on about?

If you would prefer me not to post the outcome of the letter ..... I won't.

The outcome will be the same. 3 points and a £60 fine.

 

[Morba]

The fact is if it is his first offence he's probably better paying the fine and brushing it off.

he has points already apparently.