SPL Season 2009/10

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lordfletch said:
yes everyone is against celtic , i couldnt agree more , you guys have not been beaten fairly since 1888, so please keep going on and on about how unfairly you have been treated over the years because you are making fools of yourselves and your club , the whole of scottish football is laughing at you and you dont even realise it .:D
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Enjoy that? :)
 
Nor said:
Lafferty was smart and stopped? Lafferty threw himself to the ground pretending he was head butted Mav. Same as the last time. Brown did move his head towards his chest, but come on, he didn't headbut him. The only thing that makes it look like a headbut was Lafferty falling theatrically to the ground pretending he was headbutted.

Once again Lafferty feigns injury to get someone sent off. Both should have been yellow carded for their handbags stuff and that would probably have been that if Lafferty didn't throw himself to the ground. He should be ashamed of his part in it. Somehow I don't think he is.

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The word you were looking for is intent he lead with his head there was intent thats good enough according to the rules. And If Lafferty had feigned injury he would have stayed on the ground he hit the ground and got back up.I believe he was leaning back and fell over once brown let go of his shirt and leant into him with his head (Head Butt)

[IMG]http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/47393000/jpg/_47393550_brown466.jpg[IMG] Looks like he tried to throw a headbutt.

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McMav said:
The word you were looking for is intent he lead with his head there was intent thats good enough according to the rules. And If Lafferty had feigned injury he would have stayed on the ground he hit the ground and got back up.I believe he was leaning back and fell over once brown let go of his shirt and leant into him with his head (Head Butt)

Looks like he tried to throw a headbutt.
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I agree it 'looks like he tried to throw a headbutt' from that picture but clearly he didn't if you watch the video. He did move his head towards Lafferty, but there was no headbutt.

Both parties were guilty of exactly the same thing in the little handbags at dawn episode. A talking to, or a yellow card each would be the correct decision. One gets sent off, one gets off scott free.

Do you honestly think in the incident Lafferty was the innocent party and Brown was assaulting him? That's what the referee thought, hence the red card. It was a joke decision, but no surprise the wagons are circling at the SFA.

Do you think Lafferty threw himself to the ground btw?
 
Nor. Take the green blinkered glasses off and learn the rules.

You use the term headbutt and yes it wasn't a headbutt. It was violent conduct caused by him hitting out with his head which was clear to see. Yes he hit his chest but still the intention was there and that is what the rule states.

Yes Lafferty deserved a yellow card but when you mention he falls to the ground you have omitted the fact the brown follows suit too. Guilty conscience?. Of Course.

Now is there any other paranoia or in fact rules you lot wish cleared up on. Do you prefer the flack on everyone else as long as it detracts from the fact that your board who are only interested in making money are buying a dud to sell shirts or the fact that you've signed a manger with a worse record than John Barnes?.
 
chris74 said:
Nor. Take the green blinkered glasses off and learn the rules.

You use the term headbutt and yes it wasn't a headbutt. It was violent conduct caused by him hitting out with his head which was clear to see. Yes he hit his chest but still the intention was there and that is what the rule states.

Yes Lafferty deserved a yellow card but when you mention he falls to the ground you have omitted the fact the brown follows suit too. Guilty conscience?. Of Course.

Now is there any other paranoia or in fact rules you lot wish cleared up on. Do you prefer the flack on everyone else as long as it detracts from the fact that your board who are only interested in making money are buying a dud to sell shirts or the fact that you've signed a manger with a worse record than John Barnes?.
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I don't think Celtic have been very good this season. I think Rangers are deservedly in the lead, so your last paragraph shouldn't be directed towards me.

Lafferty hit Brown about the head in the tussle, is that violent conduct?

What would all of us say if we saw this incident in an EPL game? I would hazzard a guess that we'd think it was nothing incident which was blown out of proportion by the referee.
 
lordfletch said:
brown went down as well . you actualy didnt see that or just forgot to mention it ?
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Watch the video and see that Laugherty catches Brown's leg while he is theatrically falling down. Laugherty drops like a stone for no apparent reason and Brown is brought down in the tangle of Laughing Boy's flailing limbs.

I loved Charlie Nicholas' comment about the Laugherty - that's the second time he has influenced an Old Firm game and it isn't because of his abilities, he doesn't have any. Classic and so true.
 
Nor said:
I agree it 'looks like he tried to throw a headbutt' from that picture but clearly he didn't if you watch the video. He did move his head towards Lafferty, but there was no headbutt.

Both parties were guilty of exactly the same thing in the little handbags at dawn episode. A talking to, or a yellow card each would be the correct decision. One gets sent off, one gets off scott free.

Do you honestly think in the incident Lafferty was the innocent party and Brown was assaulting him? That's what the referee thought, hence the red card. It was a joke decision, but no surprise the wagons are circling at the SFA.

Do you think Lafferty threw himself to the ground btw?
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For the initial Skirmish both deserved a yellow card I agree. Brown then went in for a bit of afters. Second yellow maybe? But since he lead with his head its deamed violent conduct and carries a straight red. Did lafferty throw himself to the ground perhaps or perhaps as the photo I posted shows he was leaning back and had his shirt pulled hard the forward motion and the collosion with the head coupled with the shirt pull being released could have put him backwards. I'm not a Lafferty fan in any shape or form sooner he goes the better but Brown got what his actions merited. I will agree Lafferty got away from a booking.
 
Forgetting the Old Firm rivalry for a moment - what can we do to get our 2nd CL place back?

I think we need to do all we can to help the teams playing in Europe. My proposal:

1. SPL season starts earlier to allow teams to have competitive games before entering European qualifiers.

2. Teams with midweek European games to be given home games the previous Saturday. This prevents the away trip to Inverness followed by a 48 hour journey to some eastern European backwater.

3. Under 21 rule to be relaxed for European teams. This might allow managers a bit more flexability to rotate / rest players in advance of a European game.
 
big_white_dog84 said:
Forgetting the Old Firm rivalry for a moment - what can we do to get our 2nd CL place back?
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Expand the league to include more teams but start the season a bit earlier, hopefully would provide teams with more competition with regards to styles (playing the same team 4 or 5 times a season does no one any favours, each team knows exactly how the other will play when the fixtures are announced at the start of the season usually)

Spread the wealth more evenly throughout the teams. It's no good when only Rangers & Celtic are doing decent in Europe, we really need the 2 or 3 other teams that will go to the Europa League to do well too.
 
It's going to be hard to regain our CL place and retain the European places we have left. UEFA is intent on squeezing nations like ours out of the picture. I read an article just after the recent qualification revamp that explained this better than I ever could, I'll try and dig it up.

Essentially it boiled down to a vicious circle where less european income begets lower quality teams begets less european income...

To turn this around there's going to have to be an unprecedented level of co-operation between the governing bodies in Scotland and, of course, the clubs.

I just don't think the people in charge of the Scottish game are capable of enough joined-up thinking, at least not until we enter such a dark period that they're forced into it to survive.
 
Rangers 3 -1 St Mirren. Is the league over? Probably!

I'm really puzzled about Celtic signing Robbie Keane on £68k a week. He's only here til the end of the season, and the league was pretty much over when he was signed. Was he brought in to guarentee 2nd place? Or a £1million attempt to buy the Scottish Cup?
 
big_white_dog84 said:
Rangers 3 -1 St Mirren. Is the league over? Probably!

I'm really puzzled about Celtic signing Robbie Keane on £68k a week. He's only here til the end of the season, and the league was pretty much over when he was signed. Was he brought in to guarentee 2nd place? Or a £1million attempt to buy the Scottish Cup?
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I think he was bought to appease the Celtic fans who wanted Mowbray out in January and a gamble at hoping he'd score a bundle that they desperately needed with the missfiring Samaras/Fortune, maybe hoping that Rangers would drop points as well. It'll probably be the last time we'll see players of his calibre in the SPL so enjoy it while it lasts.

The onus is on Celtic now to keep winning the rest of their games and hope Rangers drop enough points (very doubtful). I just think the SPL/police are hoping that the league won't be won at Parkhead after the split even if neutrals would find it a great game.
 
More posts removed and the thread closed yet again.
It's highly likely that it's permanent this time, fed up with warnings being ignored.
 
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