**SPOILERS** Football 26th Feb - 2nd Mar 2011

Just to let you all know I am here and yes, I am reading.

I just can't put my thoughts down because:

1. It's only going to provide ammunition for the Chelsea, Arsenal, and Liverpool supporters currently giving each other reach-arounds.
2. It might well get me banned.

Just thought i'd post before I get accused of being a "plastic" supporter mind.

Sums this forum up quite well tbh.
 
I'd have thought the "VdV cost £8m" might have made that fairly clear for you, but if you need further clarification:

Mr. Nearly Prince of Denmark: 14 goals and 6 assists in 34 games (10 subs) last season

If I said he was off to Real Madrid for £30m, you'd laugh at me, wouldn't you?
 

largely because Cesc has had an injury riddled season, he's still ended up playing a lot but he's had several bad games for him. But the point is, this is Nani's FIRST season this prolific, and he has been good this year, Fabregas has had 3-4 EPIC seasons at this level in his position while winning the world and euro cup and being incredibly instrumental to both cup wins. Before that he was still incredibly incredibly good for still years before that.

Also worth noting for the muppet Arsenal fans having a go at Arshavin is he has 9 goals and 18 assists so far.

Cesc = stability, consistancy and quite simply the best player in his position out there and has been for some time. Nani = so far, a one season wonder, if he could pull it off like Cesc or Ronaldo for 3 years THEN he might be worth the same amount.

Theres a reason Ronaldo cost so much, consistancy and he's shown that consistancy since he got to Real.

Theres also the little question mark of just how good the premier league actually is this year.

Frankly tonight Utd and Chelsea in terms of passing were shocking, both midfields were almost invisible when the other team had the ball and for the majority of the game pretty rubbish going forwards.

It was a fairly exciting game tonight which was good to see, but not exciting really from any proper quality, more from how hard both teams tried to out-rubbish each other throughout.

Any of the teams in the top 6 this year, up against almost any team in the top 6 from the start of the EPL to 2-3 years ago would be being ripped to shreds.

I have literally no clue how Utd can be top with Carrick, Fletcher, O'shea, Evans playing so many games.
 
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I'd have thought the "VdV cost £8m" might have made that fairly clear for you, but if you need further clarification:

Mr. Nearly Prince of Denmark: 14 goals and 6 assists in 34 games (10 subs) last season

If I said he was off to Real Madrid for £30m, you'd laugh at me, wouldn't you?
Van Der Vaart was sold at that price because the selling club wanted rid of his contract given their existing squad; don't really see how it impacts on the expected valuation of good players.

Assuming Real wanted to buy Nani, who is clearly valuable to United (as in, he's first team, contributes a lot to our scoring output and is young) and very skilled (which I illustrated through stats), what do you think they would reasonably bid for him? Any of the figures given so far wouldn't suprise me.

Yes I would laugh, but that's only because 1) I've seen Nani and Bendtner play for multiple games each and 2) he's not a starter for Arsenal, Nani is. I'm wondering what games you catch of the Jackson look-a-like if you think these figures are fantasy. :confused:
 
Well having done a lot of killing on Killzone 3 I've calmed down slightly following the game so first things first....

We were excellent in the first half, probably as well as we've played this season in a big game but as seems the norm with Utd/Chelsea games they have the better of the second half which seems to always cost us at least a draw that the first half performance deserves :(

Regading the pen I can't really have too many complaints tbh as it was certainly a strong claim and it went their way :(

Obviously though before the two above points Luiz should have been sent off, the fact that we had possession when he fouled Rooney really gave the ref a way out of sending him off which ultimately made a big difference to how the game ended.

TBH the biggest disappointment is how the team really lost their heads following their second goal, Vidic getting sent off for instance could now really cost us another game this weekend at Anfield.

All in all a draw would have been a fair result, Chelsea played probably as well as they have all season (the game raising gits), and the ref bottled sending their player which was really the turning point in the game.

About a month ago we hadn't lost a game, now we've lost 2 with the other game raisers to come this weekend without Vidic - awesome :(
 
I've calmed too and I still think Atkinson the incompetent lady area threw that match well and proper. We were much the better team and had he done his job properly, would have been well out of sight before he allowed Chelsea right back into it.

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I've calmed too and I still think Atkinson the incompetent lady area threw that match well and proper. We were much the better team and had he done his job properly, would have been well out of sight before he allowed Chelsea right back into it.

:mad:

If you mean the Terry penalty incident he always gets away with them, no ref would have gave it. I agree he got some other decisions wrong like the free kick which they almost scored from in the first half but his major **** ups came when it was 1-1

I am shocked he got this fixture two years on the spin after what happened last year, that's certainly something to question...
 
Well it was more the case of allowing David Luiz to get away with GBH multiple times that bothered me.

Anyhow, i'd rather not talk about it, but put it this way, if we lose the title by < 3 points i'm going to be absolutely spitting blood at the end of the season.

Onwards and (hopefully) upwards.

[Edit] Also this made me laugh:

Cesc Fabregas on Twitter: "David Luiz is looking to be a very good player and still only 23. He's got class. Defenders playing well with the ball always my favourites."

Yes Cesc. Just you wait until he comes scytheing through the back of you and RvP. Then I can assure he won't be a "very good player" with "class" anymore. :D
 
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The game at Old Trafford in May can't come soon enough for me now likewise our next game at their place. We've had far too much bad luck against them over the past 10 years and are well overdue giving them some royal hidings home and away
 
Well having done a lot of killing on Killzone 3 I've calmed down slightly following the game so first things first....

We were excellent in the first half, probably as well as we've played this season in a big game but as seems the norm with Utd/Chelsea games they have the better of the second half which seems to always cost us at least a draw that the first half performance deserves :(

Excellent in the first half........ Excellent, thats the word you would choose.

In the first half UTd had one shot on target, the goal, that came out of nothing, Chelsea had 4 shots on target in the first half. Utd only had 4 shots total in that "excellent" first half, 1 off target from the corner, one from Evra from further away than Rooney's goal and Nani had a blocked shot from outside the box aswell.

Excellent, not even remotely close, under seemingly little pressure from Chelsea for most of the half, one very very good chance for Malouda early that he passed to VDS, and then they had 3 shots on target just before half time. INbetween Chelsea were rubbish, but so were Utd, sure they got outside the box easily enough, it was a strange game. When your midfield had the ball Essien/Ramires/Lampard didn't get close to them, but you got to the final third and nothing, you had a single shot in 45 minutes that you dominated from inside the box, everything else was shooting from lack of options and there were only 4 shots total.

I'd call that anything but excellent, drab, poor, uncreative and not close to threatening.

In total including goals Utd had 9 shots in the game, 2 on target, and CHelsea had 20 shots, 7 on target.
 
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Thank you Chelski for helping Arsenal have a glimmer of hope of overtaking Utd for the EPL title...any further help from other teams would be muchly appreciated...ta very much

Your sincerely,

Arsenal fan

:D:D
 
did Mike phelan come out and say 'you can't argue with the referees decision' after this match....
 
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