***SPOILERS!!*** Football 29 Jan -3rd Feb 2011

When asked about his disappointment at conceding the two goals, Moyes instead decided to say to Sky Sports in his post-match interview: "I think at half-time in the tunnel was the worst.

"Fabregas should have been sent off in the tunnel for his comments about the officials. It was disgusting.

"I won't be repeating them, but maybe someone will."
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From sky sports website, didn't see the interview myself, but essentially when asked about conceding two goals he went off on one at Cesc. Its known as deflection, its what Brown did and what others have done. Managers often do it, Wenger does it, though he rarely flat out attacks a player unless of course they've snapped one of his players legs in half.

So instead of talking about his own team, not far from a relegation fight at all, and the selling of all his players and essentially no replacements, he chooses to talk about something that happened at half time, but he won't tell you what it was, and when asked again he said he wouldn't comment further.


No idea what Cesc said, might be bad, might have been nothing, who knows, he would have had reason and I can see ref and linesman being dropped for the next round of prem league games.

As I said before, it wasn't that they didn't see he was offside, they did see it, then completely incorrectly applied the offside rule. He was offside and took advantage of standing offside, touching a defender between has NEVER mattered in those situations, the linesman and ref talked it over at length, and they got the rule completely wrong.

Missing an offside I CAN understand, thats a genuine mistake, knowing what happened and applying the rule incorrectly is absolutely indefensible.
 
dm has a point, missing an offside is forgivable sometimes, maybe not when it's so obvious as tonight, but two officials completely misunderstanding the offside rule is surely something that could get them dropped for a long time, it's a fairly integral part of a linesmans/refs work ..
 
Tom84 said:
Was really counting on both Arsenal and Chelsea dropping points tonight :(
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Unlucky for you then:p

Glad Arsenal managed to beat Everton, how Evertons goal was allowed to stand is quite truly beyond me...As for Moyes having a pop at Fabregas??..well i suppose his side conceding 2 goals will cause him to say something...but meh another 3 pts bagged so im happy enough with that.
 
Well apparently Wenger's interview says he was standing next to Cesc into the tunnel and Wenger talked to the ref, and told Sky to check the video and ask the ref, while Moyes is just randomly saying something was digusting but refusing to comment further.

But Wenger also said the linesman explained that they felt Koscielny effectively passed the ball back to the keeper. The problem is EVEN IF HE DID its still offside because the player gained an advantage by being in an offside position BEFORE Koscielny touched it, he would need to be onside when the ball was passed for it to not be offside.

The other matter is, Koscielny clearly did not pass it, it was a deflection, though again, it wouldn't matter if he had actually passed it intentionally to the keeper. Shockingly poor refereeing.

Anyway, starting to think Arsenal should employ someone to follow Cesc around with a camera as people seem to target him as a way of distracting from losing games. I can't believe Hull got away with what they did, Brown should have had a fine and probably several match touchline ban, which would probably prevent other people from randomly targeting players.

I HATE Diouf, but I feel like Warnock did the same, talk up Diouf to take attention away from the shocking red card tackle his own player did, had he not broken his own leg in doing it(Givet obviously drinks a LOT of milk) he'd have been red carded and Warnock comes across as just trying to change the story.
 
DM, the whole thing with Cesc and Hool was probably rooted in genuine misunderstanding; Fabs spat on the ground dangerously close to one of their staff's shoes and well, I'm sure most of you have seen fights start over less.

I'm not saying that the whole ****storm afterwards was justified, but to say clubs 'target' Cesc is a load horse**** to be honest. He is Arsenal's captain and will probably be in the middle of any fracas just before or after the game, and let's face it Arsenal don't seem like a 'take it on the chin' sort of club.

Just sayin'.
 
I don't mind Cesc causing a few waves, I think Arsenal have been way too nice recently, why not give this a go for a season?
 
HOLY CRAP WE SCORED FROM A CORNER!!! :o

Oh and great Howard save to deny RVP from the free kick as well. I didn't get to see the Everton goal as I just tuned into Football First after they'd scored, but I'm guessing from the above posts it was controversial. :p
 
Meh, Brentford were a game or two off the play off's 4-5 games ago, now in a relegation fight, got tonked by Dag and Red 4-0, and Yeovil have beaten them twice in a few weeks, both of those were deep in relegation WAY behind them. Lost 6 without a win and one draw in the middle, before that it was 7 wins in 9 games after a horrible start to the season :(

Hope it turns around again and they stay up.
 
K1LLSW1TCH said:
HOLY CRAP WE SCORED FROM A CORNER!!! :o

Oh and great Howard save to deny RVP from the free kick as well. I didn't get to see the Everton goal as I just tuned into Football First after they'd scored, but I'm guessing from the above posts it was controversial. :p
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Yup, redonkulous, forget who, Coleman maybe tried to pass the ball inbehind the defence for Saha, he was without question 2-3 yards offside, clear as day, the linesmen and ref both seemed to agree, but the pass took a deflection off Koscielny so they ruled it a pass from Kos and therefore not offside, even though by the rules Saha would STILL count as offside, he so so obviously didn't pass it though.


We score corners quite frequently when Bendtner plays, and it was Bendtners run again that made the space. Bendtners run was it against Shaktar where he ran infront of the keeper, put the keeper off and it was an own goal, couple games before that the Song headed goal was Song behind the keeper and Bendtner made the run across the keeper so he couldn't come off the line to get it.

Bendtner makes a decent run with almost every corner, though I think a lot of it is they see his size and strength and mark him more than anyone else, thereby leaving more room for others. He dragged two everton defenders with him that left the space for Kos, thats another game that we played miles better and created better chances while he was on the field. Also in more of a 4-4-2 the defence had two strikers to cope with and midfield had miles more space to run into the gap. Wenger, when will you go back to our best formation.
 
Thank **** we didn't drop points to what sounds like a pretty horrific mistake then. Did Wenger say anything about it?


EDIT: Just saw it, what a pathetic call from the ref and his assistants, Saha was about 3 yards offside when the pass was made and was still offside when the deflection came as well. Whatever Cesc said about the ref/assistants would have been completely justified imo.
 
I see that because we've won, and therefore the goal wasn't crucial, that none of the media are giving such a ridiculously wrong decision any interest.

It doesn't matter about the context, it was still a terrible call, and I really hope the FA punish Mason and his linesman for it.
 
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