Stag Do000s and unfaithfulness.

Freefaller said:
It shouldn't be seen as the "last night of freedom". It's deplorable in my opinion.

My stag do was me and a dozen of my closest friends, a few drinks, a few bars, some fun activities (outdoorsy stuff), good food, and some did end up going to a strip club, but it holds no appeal to me so some of us went elsewhere.

Ultimately we had a good laugh and good fun.

For me, it was about spending time with friends and just having a laugh - which I did.

If you feel you have to misbehave with another woman then I question your morality and suitability for marriage.
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this - its cheating. if a woman did that to me she'd be out the door.
 
Freefaller said:
It shouldn't be seen as the "last night of freedom". It's deplorable in my opinion.

My stag do was me and a dozen of my closest friends, a few drinks, a few bars, some fun activities (outdoorsy stuff), good food, and some did end up going to a strip club, but it holds no appeal to me so some of us went elsewhere.

Ultimately we had a good laugh and good fun.

For me, it was about spending time with friends and just having a laugh - which I did.

If you feel you have to misbehave with another woman then I question your morality and suitability for marriage.
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To give a bit of history to it...

The night known as the stag do is a tradition where by the groomsmen are testing the groom with temptation. If the groom is able to attend a night with all of man's desires on offer and still remain faithful (and/or still wishes to wed) then he has "passed".

It is the groom's men's duty to the groom and the bride that he is committed.

Likewise for hen nights.

It's supposed to be ”one last night of 'freedom' and if you still want to get married after this then you're ready." Certainly it has been contrived to "last chance to do all that dirty stiff you've always wanted to do"
 
Cosimo said:
Been to many a do including my own although I didn’t remember much of it.

The getting smashed or whatever, bound in tape and left naked on a common, etc are just fine but when it comes to having sex it’s cheating as you’re already in a relationship and have committed to that person.

If you feel the need to have sex then one really does have to question whether you’re fit to make a commitment to marriage.
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THIS.
 
B@Th*nG said:
sorry old timer but I've not seen Pretty Woman, or Jeremy Kyle for that matter, so you've lost me a bit there. define sexual contact, isn't that implicit in "sex"? your standard strip club stuff is pretty.. well.. standard, no?

B@
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Lol old timer :p I am 29 lol :D

In Pretty Woman, Julia Roberts plays a prostitute and one of her rules when with a client is 'No kissing' as she only does that with someone she loves :)

In JK, sexual contact is anything up to, but not including, penetration/intercourse

Edit: just remembered a Hen Do i went on a few years back. The brides mother and the grooms mother were in attendance and neither stopped the bride getting off with some randomer in the club at the end of the night. I did step in when I saw what was happening and dragged her off to get some fresh air, as she was clearly hammered as well. Needless to say the marriage lasted 2 years, with it all ending cause she had cheated on him lol
 
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agnes said:
I organised my best mates stag. We didn't have anything of the sort for him. Mostly shooting at the ranges, clay pigeon, some bird place with eagles and stuff. And the rest was just going out drinking and having a good time. All in Ireland. Brilliant weekend.

It's not his thing to have ladies up in his face.

My weekend... He has sworn that he will only take me to prague. I'm a bit dubious as my current girlfriend HATES the idea of me going to prague. But, I think what happens on a stag. Stays on a stag.

Same thing for the girl. It's a last night of pure freedom in my eyes.
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But surly the last night of pure freedom is the night before you got into a committed relationship with your soon to be wife/husband?!? Not the night before you get married, where you could have potentially been with said person for years (in some cases months) before...

And that is why, to me, its still cheating
 
I'd been in a relationship with my wife for 6 years before we got married. How does the Stag Do in this situation equate to a 'last night of freedom'? That's pure idiocy in my eyes.

If I had done anything with another woman on my stag do, it would have shown me that the wedding was a bad decision and I would have cancelled it.
 
Efour said:
Last 2 I've been to both of the grooms to be have fully "gone for it" with dancing girls to the point were it got me thinking i'm glad their wives to be wont hear about this its actually going a little too far....(in my opinion)
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'gone for it' is a bit ambiguous - did they have lap dances? Do you mean they got a BJ in some VIP room or had sex with one of the girls? Or were you just uncomfortable because the lap dancer was grinding a bit?

I don't see an issue with a lap dance per say - I do see a big issue with them paying for 'extras'.

Zethor said:
In short: if you're involved in a physical activity with a member of an opposite sex and that person cannot be hypothetically replaced with a member of the same sex, it's cheating.
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That's BS

Counter example - I'll happily hug and give a kiss on the cheek to a female friend, wife of a friend, female relative etc... its physical contact, its not sexual/cheating and its something I wouldn't do to a member of the opposite sex.
 
Freefaller said:
It shouldn't be seen as the "last night of freedom". It's deplorable in my opinion.

My stag do was me and a dozen of my closest friends, a few drinks, a few bars, some fun activities (outdoorsy stuff), good food, and some did end up going to a strip club, but it holds no appeal to me so some of us went elsewhere.

Ultimately we had a good laugh and good fun.

For me, it was about spending time with friends and just having a laugh - which I did.

If you feel you have to misbehave with another woman then I question your morality and suitability for marriage.
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I concur. If you need to look at it as your last night of freedom, then I think you should be questioning whether or not you're ready to spend the rest of your life with this person.
 
What I can't understand is why men (some men, not all) seem to enjoy taking other mens clothes off, and taping them to lamp posts.

p.s. I have nothing against gay men, in fact I like them as they leave women alone :D
 
Stag do's should be 1 thing, a night out with your mates, or a day or a weekend. Go out do lad things. Go Karting paint balling ect. It should be a celebration that the guy is getting married.

I think going into a strip club is fine. Paying for anything ect is cheating - looking doesn't hurt anyone. I know how I'd feel about my misses going on a hen party and going mental with other guys. She'd be on the curb. It goes both ways.
 
Freefaller said:
It shouldn't be seen as the "last night of freedom". It's deplorable in my opinion.

My stag do was me and a dozen of my closest friends, a few drinks, a few bars, some fun activities (outdoorsy stuff), good food, and some did end up going to a strip club, but it holds no appeal to me so some of us went elsewhere.

Ultimately we had a good laugh and good fun.

For me, it was about spending time with friends and just having a laugh - which I did.

If you feel you have to misbehave with another woman then I question your morality and suitability for marriage.
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Most people seem to be of the same rational opinion in this thread, but this post just about sums it up perfectly.

The thought of someone else spooging up my fiance would make me want to do something that would most probably land me in prison. If you love someone enough to marry them and commit to them, having a meaningless shag for no reason whatsoever other than 'last night blah blah' is horrific.

I'm getting married in August and we haven't arranged a stag/ hen do yet. Neither of us can be bothered with it. Potentially we might do a joint stag/ hen do and have a good night out having drinks with our close friends and do some 'girls v boys' kind of stuff. If we don't get round to sorting that out then we probably wont bother.
 
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