Star Trek: Picard

Neat little interview with Sir Pat on Variety.

This bit intrigued me:

We’d had one idea for ending “Picard,” which I think now would have been a mistake. But it would have ended the show with a huge question mark. I liked that in terms of how it could have sent our viewers minds racing and questioning and puzzling about what was this question mark exactly and what did it mean? We didn’t do it.

What was the thing?

I can’t talk about it. I said I wouldn’t talk about it, because it was a complicated situation. I went with what the producers wanted. I was not comfortable with it, but watching the final episode the other night, I realized that what they had persuaded me we should do was absolutely the best thing that could have happened.
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I felt very satisfied at the end of this. I wouldn’t go so far as to call it great, as the nostalgia, lore and care for the characters completely carried it. It’s like when you have a memorable place you enjoyed as a child… when you revisit, you overlook the flaws as an adult because of all of those memories.

As I DO have those memories, I had a fab time :)

First, the bad. The ‘science’ in this was horrible nonsense - how on earth, nay, the galaxy, could they not have detected changes to Picard’s DNA in the age of transporters and administering treatments with a handheld device. Then, how the **** would that Borg tech work?! You do have to suspend disbelief with this show, always, but this was probably the silliest ‘science’ I have ever seen in Trek. The show benefits when it keeps the ‘science’ to a minimum - because it quickly becomes silly.

As for the resolution, the Borg just seemed to roll over and let them win. There was no reason whatsoever to let them onto the cube, even if the Borg have been pretty darn lax about letting people into their cubes… you think they would have learned by now :p

Now, the good. The production of the last episode was fantastic. It felt almost like a movie - there was a real ‘final battle’ feeling to it all. The cast all gave decent performances and the dialogue was actually quite emotional at times… granted, maybe that’s nostalgia fuelled, but Picard’s words to his son in the collective (“I’ll stay here with you then.”) were moving. To me, anyway.

All characters stayed true to form and I absolutely LOVED that they still made room for that TNG humour… particularly in the data counselling scene with Troi. Her reactions were hilarious.

The final poker scene was amazing. That’s exactly how it should have ended - leaving the friends as they were, in the middle of something.

Overall it was undeniably silly, but an excellent vehicle for what mattered beyond the specific plot: a grand farewell to TNG :)
 
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I felt very satisfied at the end of this. I wouldn’t go so far as to call it great, as the nostalgia, lore and care for the characters completely carried it. It’s like when you have a memorable place you enjoyed as a child… when you revisit, you overlook the flaws as an adult because of all of those memories.

As I DO have those memories, I had a fab time :)

First, the bad. The ‘science’ in this was horrible nonsense - how on earth, nay, the galaxy, could they not have detected changes to Picard’s DNA in the age of transporters and administering treatments with a handheld device. Then, how the **** would that Borg tech work?! You do have to suspend disbelief with this show, always, but this was probably the silliest ‘science’ I have ever seen in Trek. The show benefits when it keeps the ‘science’ to a minimum - because it quickly becomes silly.

As for the resolution, the Borg just seemed to roll over and let them win. There was no reason whatsoever to let them onto the cube, even if the Borg have been pretty darn lax about letting people into their cubes… you think they would have learned by now :p

Now, the good. The production of the last episode was fantastic. It felt almost like a movie - there was a real ‘final battle’ feeling to it all. The cast all gave decent performances and the dialogue was actually quite emotional at times… granted, maybe that’s nostalgia fuelled, but Picard’s words to his son in the collective (“I’ll stay here with you then.”) were moving. To me, anyway.

All characters stayed true to form and I absolutely LOVED that they still made room for that TNG humour… particularly in the data counselling scene with Troi. Her reactions were hilarious.

The final poker scene was amazing. That’s exactly how it should have ended - leaving the friends as they were, in the middle of something.

Overall it was undeniably silly, but an excellent vehicle for what mattered beyond the specific plot: a grand farewell to TNG :)
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Can't agree more about the science, it was a dumpster fire. Still glad to have watched it, very enjoyable.
 
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Nitefly said:
I felt very satisfied at the end of this. I wouldn’t go so far as to call it great, as the nostalgia, lore and care for the characters completely carried it. It’s like when you have a memorable place you enjoyed as a child… when you revisit, you overlook the flaws as an adult because of all of those memories.

As I DO have those memories, I had a fab time :)

First, the bad. The ‘science’ in this was horrible nonsense - how on earth, nay, the galaxy, could they not have detected changes to Picard’s DNA in the age of transporters and administering treatments with a handheld device. Then, how the **** would that Borg tech work?! You do have to suspend disbelief with this show, always, but this was probably the silliest ‘science’ I have ever seen in Trek. The show benefits when it keeps the ‘science’ to a minimum - because it quickly becomes silly.

As for the resolution, the Borg just seemed to roll over and let them win. There was no reason whatsoever to let them onto the cube, even if the Borg have been pretty darn lax about letting people into their cubes… you think they would have learned by now :p

Now, the good. The production of the last episode was fantastic. It felt almost like a movie - there was a real ‘final battle’ feeling to it all. The cast all gave decent performances and the dialogue was actually quite emotional at times… granted, maybe that’s nostalgia fuelled, but Picard’s words to his son in the collective (“I’ll stay here with you then.”) were moving. To me, anyway.

All characters stayed true to form and I absolutely LOVED that they still made room for that TNG humour… particularly in the data counselling scene with Troi. Her reactions were hilarious.

The final poker scene was amazing. That’s exactly how it should have ended - leaving the friends as they were, in the middle of something.

Overall it was undeniably silly, but an excellent vehicle for what mattered beyond the specific plot: a grand farewell to TNG :)
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the ending was, like come on borg queen rolling out the welcome mat with no real back up :cry: , but i loved it
 
Interesting Season 3 of Picard looks like it has broken the record for most improved TV show season over season beating out Red Dwarf from Season 9 to 10 (going by IMDB ratings):

www.theringer.com

Did ‘Picard’ Pull Off the Greatest Turnaround in TV History?

The ‘Star Trek’ sequel set out to eschew nostalgia and chart a new course. But after a disastrous second season, ‘Picard’ set a new heading and brought back its legacy characters—and just may have authored the greatest course correction in the history of the small screen.
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NameInitial SeasonSubsequent SeasonInitial Season Avg.Subsequent Season Avg.Rating Increase
Star Trek: Picard236.68.82.2
Red Dwarf9106.47.91.5
Riverdale6767.41.4
Torchwood237.98.91.1
Endeavour897.78.71
Legacies347.48.41
Fear the Walking Dead566.67.61
Another Life126.17.11
The Walking Dead89780.9
Community457.48.30.9
Fleabag1288.90.9
The Sinner346.67.50.9
The Americans567.98.80.9
Only Fools and Horses568.29.10.9
Warrior Nun127.68.50.8
Lucifer348.29.10.8
Parks and Recreation127.280.8
The Walking Dead: World Beyond125.76.50.8
Only Fools and Horses788.49.20.8
Samurai Jack458.49.20.8
 
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Wonder why the borg didnt assimilate a changeling, it coulda brought the queen back to full health kinda if it could assimilate the morphagenic matrix of em.
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Because plot.

Also, I expect their biology is way too different for the Borg to assimilate, and they’ve essentially been broken for the last two decades so wouldn’t want a war with the changelings.
 
I think this season of Picard has almost definitely been one of the strongest run of episodes in terms of quality we’ve ever got. All the old shows would have their dips due to the madness of filming 24 or 26 per year.
They stuck the landing. Wasn’t perfect and sounds like they wanted to do more but were constrained by budgets.
Kinda a miracle they pulled it off considering it was filmed at same time as season 2 during the pandemic.
I’m more convinced than ever season 2 went ahead despite only being half written and they had to wing most of it. Wouldn’t surprise me if it was meant to be season 3.

Loved seeing the D dealing out the hurt and taking care of her crew. As fun as the trench run was I think I might have preferred seeing her muscle her way through and forcing through gaps she shouldn’t fit using those big impulse engines. But that’s just minor nitpicking.

Well done to all involved.
 
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