Star Trek: Picard

nantucket66 said:
Got halfway through this.....life's too short, dull as dishwater. I really wanted to like it, but not for me.
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Sad ain’t it what they did to Picard.
He is now an Android too. Lol.

Now that some time has gone by since I watched it, I feel I am in no rush for season 2. I do hope the new show runner sorts things out though.
 
Regarding the fleet in the finale:

Bernd at EAS said:
According to Michael Chabon, the fleet was originally supposed to be more diverse: "There were three new classes of Starfleet ships approved for the climactic sequence. Whether all three can ultimately be seen or distinguished in the final screen version is unclear.
  • A heavy cruiser: the Inquiry-class. That's the Zheng He.
  • A carrier cruiser, similar to the Inquiry but with two distinctive forward 'prongs' or 'horns' off the elongated 'saucer': the Equity-class.
  • An explorer, with a distinctive 'open' or ring-style saucer: the Seeker-class."
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I suspect the usual time crunch happened and the VFX team just didn't have the other designs ready.
 
nantucket66 said:
Got halfway through this.....life's too short, dull as dishwater. I really wanted to like it, but not for me.
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You're right. I pretty much gave up half way through. I only finished the series as my friend told me it gets better, which it did but don't get too excited ;)

Episode 1&2 were decent enough - just setting the scene really.

Episodes 3&4 - Nothing exciting happens.

Episode 5 - French Pirate Picard & Seven of Nine won me over. Even though Pirate Picard was awful I did enjoy it. Seven of Nine storyline was interesting but dropped at the end of the episode :(

Episode 6 - Boring. The ending was stupid with Elnor refusing to go with them.

Episode 7 - This is the worst episode. Elnor and the Borg dude inexplicably start off in a completely different setting to where they end the last episode. Soji starts acting like a robot as soon as someone tells her that she is an android - even though the whole point is that she's indistinguishable from a human! The high point was the return of Riker. However this was offset by pretty much everything else, including his annoying child. Also Elnor is now australian, I guess he couldn't be bothered to do an accent anymore.

Episodes 8 to 10 - These are decent enough if you're willing to forgive that Picard is now an android. However they let the Romulans go at the end - seems it doesn't matter if they murder loads of people. Agnes is also off the hook for killing Bruce Maddox.

Overall i'm going to give it a generous 6/10. I might watch series two but I won't be in a rush to do so.
 
Were the Romulans bad guys? I mean their predictions actually came true, the bad thing they predicted was about to happen in the way they predicted. OK you could argue that they precipitated the events themselves but the synthetics didn't show any higher moral purpose. They were yeah cool bring on the ultimate genocide dude, cool with us. OK the Romulan solution wasn't the only one as we saw but it was conceivably proportionate to the threat.

And I guess the lack of nuance to the plot about that fact is part of its failing. The grey needs to be grey or it you want good versus evil make the evil evil not just "actually they have a point".
 
Just finished watching this, I thought it was pretty good and will be tuning into season two. Sure it has its low points (what doesn't these days) but it kept me entertained and and had about the right amount nostalgia points for me.

7/10 on IMDB, seems about right for me.

I did have to do a double take when I started reading this thread, I thought I clicked into a Star Wars thread for a moment... That said, out of this and the Mandalorian, then I would pick The Mandalorian.
 
The "advanced ai" being a set of red tentacles was a bit of a wtf moment. Would have been interesting seeing them emerge and slapping a few ships around, assuming that's how they work. Just seemed a really bleh design choice overall.
 
Hmm. If you take out all the forced politics(yes they were completely hamfisted in to prove points and enraged fans) and try to forget this is Star Trek this is still bloody awful.

I guess people have been starved of decent Sci Fi and will take anything lol.

There was semi decent scenes but they were pretty much ruined by some of the worse writing in history and a truly unlikable cast.

After getting back from self isolation a coupe of old geezers in work said they really liked it and they have pretty awful taste in TV shows and pretty much hate Sci Fi and fantasy.

Guess I watched it to the end because it wasn't as bad as another life which I stopped watching after 1 and a half episodes.
 
Bigpig said:
Hmm. If you take out all the forced politics(yes they were completely hamfisted in to prove points and enraged fans) and try to forget this is Star Trek this is still bloody awful.

I guess people have been starved of decent Sci Fi and will take anything lol.

There was semi decent scenes but they were pretty much ruined by some of the worse writing in history and a truly unlikable cast.

After getting back from self isolation a coupe of old geezers in work said they really liked it and they have pretty awful taste in TV shows and pretty much hate Sci Fi and fantasy.

Guess I watched it to the end because it wasn't as bad as another life which I stopped watching after 1 and a half episodes.
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well when one of the best scifi shows in the last decade was "the 100" it sure says a lot.
there has been some really promising scifi series that got cancelled whilst rubbish like killjoys gets renewed.


whats the 100 even supposed to be really, a low budget teen drama series with a little bit of science fiction thrown in yet somehow its better than most series....
maybe the reason is because it didn't take it self 100% seriously and try to be some crap sterile scifi rubbish with plots and character actions that make absolutely zero sense unless the character is suffering severe mental problems like schizophrenia...



look at the scifi channels history... they basically try to kill any scifi that becomes good or has potential.

stargate sg1 was soo close to having another series, a streaming network were ready to take on the show, I can't remember who it was maybe amazon but the scifi channel had some clause in their contract that put a halt to another company releasing stargate episodes.

I think it was because scifi were still running atlantis so wouldn't let another network air a new SG1 season.

EDIT: apple were wanting to continue SG1, they already said yes
Meanwhile, SCI FI was making it clear to the public in the summer of 2006 that its contract with MGM prevented an eleventh season on U.S. television. That apparently also extended to digital distribution platforms, such as iTunes, where original scripted content was still in its infancy.
“We went down the road [with Apple],” Mallozzi said, “and then ultimately there was a clause in our deal with SCI FI that would not permit us to go elsewhere without their OK. And they did not give the OK. So basically we did not get the eleventh season.”
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SciFi becoming SyFy and then starting with the men in tights was the end of SciFi for me, the only thing I've watched, well currently watching that has kept me interested is The Expanse..
 
Uncle Petey said:
I guess it's easier to do a generic robo-tentacle than design something really cool and interesting when it's only onscreen for a moment, never to be seen again.
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Woulda been far more interesting if there was a battle of sorts, all this hype about super advanced apocalypse bringing ai and it never really materialises.
 
arknor said:
well when one of the best scifi shows in the last decade was "the 100" it sure says a lot.
there has been some really promising scifi series that got cancelled whilst rubbish like killjoys gets renewed.
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One of the best sci-fi shows of the last decade was Watchmen, it was brilliant from start to finish.
 
checjb said:
Haven't watched it and don't intend to. Everything I've heard of read about it just goes against why I love TNG.
Instead, I'm going to revisit ST: Armada 1&2.
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I'm a huge TNG fan, absolutely loved it. Picard has put a nasty taste in my mouth. I just can't think of anything they could have done any worse.

They ruined Picard, Data, Seven, The Borg (yep, even worse than what Voyager made them), The Federation, Starships...hell even the uniforms looked cheap.

Riker and Troi were the only two who kinda felt the same.

Geordi is coming into Season 2, they'll ruin him next.

The only thing they could do now, is in the first episode of season 2 have Picard waking up from a nightmare and write off season one completely.

You could tell the series was done on the cheap. Not sure why Patrick Stewart did it really. I mean surely he read the script and thought "god this is sh"
 
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