Star Trek : Strange New Worlds

Not really, many are die hard Trek fans.

I think you are forgetting Shatner's Trek from back in the day, arguably more "ludicrous" things going on in those episodes. Not every episode is going to be a serious affair anyway. This fits in with that trend and brings about some likeable humanised characters.
 
mrk said:
Not really, many are die hard Trek fans.

I think you are forgetting Shatner's Trek from back in the day, arguably more "ludicrous" things going on in those episodes. Not every episode is going to be a serious affair anyway. This fits in with that trend and brings about some likeable humanised characters.
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To be fair, you're also probably forgetting the genuinely very good episodes from TOS as well and focusing on crap like "Spock's Brain" or "Turnabout Intruder". And, lest we forget, this latest SNW episode cribbed a whole plot mechanic from "Turnabout Intruder" with the body swapping deal...
 
Kainz said:
An enjoyable laid back episode I thought.
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Might be my favourite of the lot. I used to find episodes like this the worst in TNG etc. But this read really good.


I'm impressed by this series. Wonder what made them change format from discovertrash back to original with a modern twist trek?
 
413x said:
I'm impressed by this series. Wonder what made them change format from discovertrash back to original with a modern twist trek?
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Who knows? Fan and reviewer reaction - bizarrely - has been vaguely positive in the main towards STD in spite of it being...how shall I put this kindly...******* trash. Presumably modern Trek fandumb is easily placated by flashy VFX and MCU-level stakes.
 
JRS said:
Who knows? Fan and reviewer reaction - bizarrely - has been vaguely positive in the main towards STD in spite of it being...how shall I put this kindly...******* trash. Presumably modern Trek fandumb is easily placated by flashy VFX and MCU-level stakes.
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I liked a few of the early STD episodes.
I liked the mirror crew. And the old captain. But the spore drive? Which basically breaks a whole load of stuff was ridiculous. Michael. Drove me crazy. Just so annoying. Most of the crew too.

Even philipa became lame in later episodes.


Only thing I did like were the SFX.
 
@steve5424 - sorry, where's the nonsense?

The STD S2 finale showed a good chunk of the primary hull of Enterprise getting Blowed Up But Good™.
The latest episode of SNW showed a hull plate that's part of that same bit that was destroyed claiming it was 'the oldest unreplaced bit of the hull' (paraphrasing).

So either the whole hull of the Enterprise got replaced a few times over since the S2 finale, which seems somewhat less than likely...or the writers cocked up.

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Don't get me wrong - I'm all for declaring STD as apocryphal at best, non-canon as a matter of preference. It's just gonna take a bit of unthreading to do that.
 
1x06 - Lift Us Where Suffering Cannot Reach

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A threat to an idyllic planet reunites Captain Pike with the lost love of his life. To protect her and a scientific holy child from a conspiracy, Pike offers his help and is forced to face unresolved feelings of his past.
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Sounds a bit more Pike-centric than some of the episodes so far have been, which can only be a Good Thing™ because Anson Mount.

The Good

Predictably, Anson Mount.
As much as I hate the JJTrek-ness of the bridge set - and I really, really do loathe it - I love the little nods to TOS sound effects up there. Actually, all over the ship.
The backstory that has Uhura rotating between assignments in different departments as a cadet. While it's being used as an excuse to show her as a fish out of water it also handily explains why she was Kirk's choice on occasion to cover the navigation station on the bridge - which, lest we forget, is where phaser fire and photon torpedo launches were mostly directed from in TOS so they're unlikely to want someone utterly inexperienced in operating the console.
The VFX, and specifically the cloud city visuals of Majalis. Not the first airborne city in Trek - TOS showed one in "The Cloud Minders", the city of Stratos on Ardana.
Other TOS throwbacks abound - the captain getting it on with the alien girl of the week, a civilisation effectively ruled by a machine...
I like the 'resolution' to the story. No real winners. No way for anyone to hero their way out of it. I'm sure Michael Burnham, Galactic Hero, Famed In Song And Story™ would've been handed the win by the writing somehow but Pike is an actual character rather than a Mary Sue/Marty Stu so he gets to live with this as it is. As does Alora.

The Bad

Still not giving Ortegas much to do in this series aside from snark and occasionally obey an order. Not quite Harry Kim or Travis Mayweather levels of underused, but it wouldn't take much to slip down into that.
I'm not getting any more fond of this version of M'Benga and the whole 'daughter in the transporter buffer' plot thread.

The Kurtzman

La'an Noonien-Singh :rolleyes:
I see we're at the 'wholesale ripping off of other works' stage of SNW, with this basically being a Trekified rework of Ursula K. Le Guin's "The Ones Who Walk Away from Omelas" :p Amazed the showrunners made it all the way to episode 6.
 
Kainz said:
I didn't see the twist coming and that shock moment hit hard.
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Unfortunately, I did. I say 'unfortunately' - it didn't spoil the episode because I'd already figured that they were cribbing from "The Ones Who Walk Away from Omelas" pretty early on (chalk it up to pattern recognition). And, even knowing that, it was still up in the air exactly how Pike was going to find out about it and what his reaction would be.

It could, and probably would, have been rather more ham-fisted with STD.

Kainz said:
I enjoyed it overall. More Pike goodness with that lovely blob of hair is always a good thing! :o
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Yep. Fingers crossed for more Pike-centric stuff going forward.

Mind, only four more episodes left this season :( And with this being episodic rather than serialised which way will they go? A TOS-style 'just another episode' to end the season? A TNG-style cliffhanger? A DS9-style fork in the road? A Voyager-style irrelevance?

Or Enterprise-style 'EVIL ALIEN NAZIS!!!1111oneoneonetwothree'? :p
 
I didn't hate this week's episode. Maybe due to some characters taking a back seat. I am beginning to warm to the Dr even though he should be an older white male. I felt more engaged watching this one and less inclined to drift off, but I still did at a couple of points. I'm still not exactly sure what happens to the small child other than the machine makes them shrivel up. What is their purpose? I somehow missed that.
 
something daft already!! said:
I didn't hate this week's episode. Maybe due to some characters taking a back seat. I am beginning to warm to the Dr even though he should be an older white male. I felt more engaged watching this one and less inclined to drift off, but I still did at a couple of points. I'm still not exactly sure what happens to the small child other than the machine makes them shrivel up. What is their purpose? I somehow missed that.
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Sorry but why should the Doctor be older and white and male?

Something about the planet being run by a computer that needs a young brain and nervous system

Also, how can they be getting Strange New Worlds so right when Picard and Discovery get it so very, very wrong so consistently? The Show Runners and producers are nearly all the same.
 
JRS said:
Unfortunately, I did. I say 'unfortunately' - it didn't spoil the episode because I'd already figured that they were cribbing from "The Ones Who Walk Away from Omelas" pretty early on (chalk it up to pattern recognition). And, even knowing that, it was still up in the air exactly how Pike was going to find out about it and what his reaction would be.

It could, and probably would, have been rather more ham-fisted with STD.



Yep. Fingers crossed for more Pike-centric stuff going forward.

Mind, only four more episodes left this season :( And with this being episodic rather than serialised which way will they go? A TOS-style 'just another episode' to end the season? A TNG-style cliffhanger? A DS9-style fork in the road? A Voyager-style irrelevance?

Or Enterprise-style 'EVIL ALIEN NAZIS!!!1111oneoneonetwothree'? :p
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I suspect another run in with the Gorn is likely.
 
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