**Star Wars Outlaws Open World Star Wars game from Massive Entertainment**

It seems that most of those that have played it have enjoyed it, at least to a certain extent, and those who haven't, and don't think they will have had their beliefs validated by a few reviews here and there, like some sort of echo chamber effect. Much like Politics too. I may give it a go at some point, likely through Ubisoft+. It'll be interesting to see how my 3080 10GB runs it at 1440p Ultrawide.
 
There is no PC patch today, it says coming soon:

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Good to see improvements still on the way. I'm getting towards the end of the game and have only had the odd issue here and there. The initial texture/vram issue and I thought I had a crashing issue but it turns out the game just doesn't like my "push to the limit" over/underclock preset. I lost at sabacc one time too as one of the npc shift tokens applied for the whole game instead of the single round.

I gave all the different RTX settings a try throughout the game but settled on turning most of them down/off and using FSR3 with the frame gen mod on the 3080.
 
I did get around to playing again after one of the open world stealth missions ****** me off. This time I paid attention to the other mechanics I could use, such as Nix to distract, or the adrenaline's mode etc. It did make it a better experience and there are some really nice details graphically.

It’s just overall above average at best. Seems to get a lot of hate and random troll posts in here though. I do forget how much fun it can be to go into a thread of a game you don’t play and trolling for bantz. I might head over to the CP 2077 or the Wukong threads, I mean they are both **** games and their fans deserve to be reminded every now and again ;)
 
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They’re as crap as in the movies then. At least there’s consistency!

I was a child during the original Star Wars movie release and thought it was meh. Pretty much disliked them all to be honest, even though I’m a Sci Fi fan. Weird though I like Star Wars games if you get to be a Jedi. This is probably why I am having a harder time liking Outlaws compared to Survivor or Fallen Order.
 
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I did get around to playing again after one of the open world stealth missions ****** me off. This time I paid attention to the other mechanics I could use, such as Nix to distract, or the adrenaline's mode etc. It did make it a better experience and there are some really nice details graphically.

It’s just overall above average at best. Seems to get a lot of hate and random troll posts in here though. I do forget how much fun it can be to go into a thread of a game you don’t play and trolling for bantz. I might head over to the CP 2077 or the Wukong threads, I mean they are both **** games and their fans deserve to be reminded every now and again ;)
Don't take it personally. If you enjoy the game, that's all that matters.

My view is that the game mechanics & AI are below par. If Kay Vess existed in real life I'd drop her into Kursk, and by next week she'd have punched her way to Moscow using bushes as cover :D
 
Don't take it personally. If you enjoy the game, that's all that matters.

My view is that the game mechanics & AI are below par. If Kay Vess existed in real life I'd drop her into Kursk, and by next week she'd have punched her way to Moscow using bushes as cover :D

I don’t take it personally, I do seriously accept some trolling and banter is perfectly good and I have had such “fun” on the CrapPunk 2077 thread in the past :D

The problem with AI and game mechanics is you can’t hold this game to higher standards than others. For example Elden ring has some of the worst AI ever and some of the gameplay mechanics are ultra simplistic. Yet it got GOTY, same for CP 2077. Lots of issues and nothing remotely new, yet became a poster child “cus RT innit”.

Outlaws is generic stuff and typical subpar pap like most AAA games. Wukong is similar in the regard it brings nothing remotely new to their respective genres. Yet one is getting lambasted and the other gets praise.

Gamers and reviewers are such fickle creatures.
 
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I was a child during the original Star Wars movie release and thought it was meh. Pretty much disliked them all to be honest, even though I’m a Sci Fi fan. Weird though I like Star Wars games if you get to be a Jedi. This is probably why I am having a harder time liking Outlaws compared to Survivor or Fallen Order.
I wasn't born yet until the 2nd or 3rd star wars movie.

I much preferred star trek.
 
I wasn't born yet until the 2nd or 3rd star wars movie.

I much preferred star trek.

Yeah, I think the cartoon villain style bad guys were just over the top and cheesy. Darth Vadar just randomly killing his own troops and so on, it got really OTT by the time Kylo Ren etc. my 11 year old son has made me watch them all a few times.
 
Yeah, I think the cartoon villain style bad guys were just over the top and cheesy. Darth Vadar just randomly killing his own troops and so on, it got really OTT by the time Kylo Ren etc. my 11 year old son has made me watch them all a few times.
I saw the star wars trilogy when they went back on the cinema early 2000s I think it was when it was remastered.

Still think star trek is way better universe than star wars imo
 
It’s just overall above average at best. Seems to get a lot of hate and random troll posts in here though. I do forget how much fun it can be to go into a thread of a game you don’t play and trolling for bantz. I might head over to the CP 2077 or the Wukong threads, I mean they are both **** games and their fans deserve to be reminded every now and again ;)
Realise though that you can both enjoy parts of a game whilst still hating the majority of everything else. Jedi duo were exactly that, decent blasting and action, but let down by issues like AI, excessive parkouring, missing features etc.

Outlaws is the same, though it has very few redeeming qualities other than some nice visuals and a sprawling landscape. The gameplay mechanics are trash, the AI is trash, the movement is trash of the character and the rubber bandy magnetic effect of jumping and close combat is trash. If this didn't have Star Wars fan-lore as the theme then it would be quickly forgotten/

And unlike Cyberpunk, we know that Ubisoft won't be fixing the core issues with the mechanics as that requires a big spend which Ubisoft do not have a proven track record of doing post-launch of a AAA game. Look at Jedi Survivor, still broken a year+ later, and their random statements that gamers no longer "own" games.

There's a reason why Outlaws is reviewing poorly on nearly all independent outlets and amongst most gamers.. As a "game" it's a crapshot, the Star Wars angle is what's keeping it alive for now.
 
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lol, he thinks CP2077 was fixed? Why did the limited fixes we got take 4 years.

I’m not defending Outlaws and have said it is above average at best and in many cases terrible. What I am calling out is the fact many gave CP 2077 rave reviews long before it was ever “fixed”.
 
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Yes the core gameplay mechanics and story and missions were all fine right out of the box, it was the AI and technical issues that needed fixing as well as missing (promised) gameplay features that got added later like better police, AI reactions from NPCs etc.

CP2077 gets rave reviews for really obvious reasons and these should already have stood stood out to anyone as they do to most people. If they don't to you then it;'s simply not your type of game.

In 2077 the lore stands out massively, everything is interconnected, the stuff you find on mission as well as just exploring (shards telling a deeper story of a character or random NPC that you later hear/read about in another mission etc). Outlaws has none of these connections, the main missions so far have been generic, the side missions are forgettable, you can pretty up your clothes and blaster and ship by doing the side stuff, great? That's no incentive. In CP2077 doing the side missions are arguably more important to the mains and more fun too as you get actual rewards for doing them, and they are much more varied /immersive.

I am ~15 hours into Outlaws and have done a mix of main and side stuff. I enjoy the SW universe so that is all that's keeping things going, and the wonder of what the next planet might look like visually. The gameplay is generic production line tosh that is forgettable. I think my review is bang on for exactly what the game is as a result, even though I lightly touched on the gameplay and focused on more technical, there isn't much to actually talk about for the gameplay, you're welded to a single blaster in the whole game, for example, and can;t keep any other weapon as it loses all friction the moment you do something normal like ride a speeder or climb a ladder, or crouch to enter a vent....
 
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